Talk:Petite bourgeoisie
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The term petit bourgeois (petty bourgeois) is the common one used by Marx and others, instead of a generic name for the class. If you do want to stay with a class name then it should be petite bourgeoisie and not petit bourgeoisie since bougeoisie is a word with the feminine gender, and the adjective must be in accord with this. AlainV 04:55, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Petit bourgeoisie
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- Moved from the Village Pump
- Would someone please help me to move Petit bourgeoisie to Petite bourgeoisie and set up a redirect from the old name to the new one? I tried to move the page, but something went wrong. Shorne 20:53, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Fixed. ✏ Sverdrup 21:20, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Thank you. Shorne 21:36, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Fixed. ✏ Sverdrup 21:20, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I deleted the reference to American Beauty, because I cannot for the live of me think how that film deals with petty bourgeoisie in any (overt/recognisable) way. If you can prove how, feel free to put it back in. Cheers, Lawson
The literature knows two types of petit bourgeois.
One is the good natured person. This like superficial sociability. Thea are in clubs and have a strong orientation by family. The malicious kind of p.b. have following character: spitefulness, gossip, and slander, know-it-all and bumptious manner. They see the world in "black and white" and they are against minorities. Adorno called them the "authoritariam person". --Fackel 17:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wait...
I think the "ruling bourgeois class" was usurping the aristocracy, not answering to it as its "servant." how, if at all, did the aristocracy govern the ruling bourgeois? 129.133.139.4 03:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)Andrew
- I think "servant" here is probably misleading. Also, the article ignores an evolution in the meaning of the term. In the 18th century, the petite bourgeoisie were small shopkeepers, innkeepers, landlords, and manufacturers: essentially the same as the grande bourgeoisie, but not as wealthy and not operating on a comparable scale. Increasingly, as the Industrial Revolution progressed, a second class, occupying a similar economic position, began also to be referred to as petit bourgeois: an educated class of functionaries in government and business. In this latter case, "servant" makes some sense (although it is still a bit disparaging, with its sense of personal rather than economic service).
- I will not be watchlisting this article, so if anyone wants to address a remark to me, leave it on my user talk page. - Jmabel | Talk 18:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Conflicts with definition of bourgeoisie
The table in this article appears to conflict with the definition in bourgeoisie. That article indicates bourgeoisie refers to middle class, although it later gives a geographically limited alternative reference to upper class. So which is it?
MaxwellPerkins 05:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)