Talk:Pornographic film

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Contents 1 Clean-up 2 Sub-genres 3 Cliches 4 Sourcing 5 Explaining slang 6 DVDA 7 Mainstream and porn film industries 8 Image 9 Ugh

[edit] Clean-up

I've done a substantial clean up, which included things like phrasing problems, redundancey, and terminological errors/vagueness all the way to deleting things that seemed to be entirely original research or non-NPOV. However, there are absolutely no sources cited in this article, despite claims and facts that really need the support. This article would benefit from some research, but I haven't the means to do it. I hope someone will fill that in soon. Until then, I've tagged this as needing sources cited. And if you want to dispute or discuss my edits, I'm happy to engage in that conversation. Oh but please, if you want to revert something, don't rever to the whole thing, just what you want to change back! 149.43.x.x 00:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sub-genres

There is a category listed here called 'shemale' porn. I was under the impression that this term was degrading. I was going to change it, but I was not sure if it was labeled this by someone who doesn't know it is offensive, or if it is popularly known as 'shemale' porn as was thus labeled as such. I was thinking maybe 'transgender' 'pre-op' or 'gender-fuck' as alternatives. Any thoughts? Sylvea

I think the terminology matches the context - this would be the term used to describe the porn. I would consider it offensive, but I consider offensive the way that "lesbian" porn is used - it often depicts women engaged in sexual acts for the viewing pleasure of a male audience (this is clearly and often explicitly the target audience). But like "lesbian," "shemale" is the term they use in this insdustry, and so I assume then that it is most appropriate (for this article, not for something like Transsexualism). However, much of the other terminology in this article is innacurate, and some of it seems pretty non-NPOV, so I'll try to do a clean-up sometime soon. 149.43.x.x 02:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cliches

Hm, under Pornographic movie cliches I expected to see "The gardener comes in for a drink of water," etc. Koyaanis Qatsi

I think cliché is perhaps the wrong word here. I will attempt to find a word better suited to this section. 149.43.x.x 02:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sourcing

The article could really use some references and better external links, not just things like the adult film database. I'm sure good books have been written about the history of pornographic movies.

Also, here's a claim that is really begging for a source: "...mainstream pornographic movies now depict a range of behaviors including anal sex that are high risk activities for STD transmission, as if the taboo status of these activities has made them more thrilling for the consumers of pornography. Anal sex and other similar activities are now part of heterosexual pornography in a way that was unprecedented before the outbreak of AIDS." The first half of the first sentence is undeniable, and the second sentence is arguably true if vague, but the combined implication - that the risk of AIDS and other STDs is the reason there's more anal sex in hetero movies - is quite a leap, and should either be cited as the opinion of some particular writer(s) on the subject, or removed as too much like original research. ←Hob June 30, 2005 21:48 (UTC)

[edit] Explaining slang

I was redirected to this page from a search with the keyword "blue movie" I expected some type of explaination as to how that term has come about.--63.196.199.219 06:55, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I think redirects from slang terms (or to any term that's extremely different from the article title) imply that we should explain or at least mention the term. Similarly, "Stag film" redirects to Pornography with no explanation. I hate to bring this up without fixing it myself, but I probably don't have time. ←Hob 17:36, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

The etymology of these terms may be more appropriate in a dictionary, not an encylopedia. I'm not sure. 149.43.x.x 02:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DVDA

Is this real, or is this just an urban legend? It does not sound physically pooisble because of the need to cram four men in behind one woman. Zeromacnoo 22:05, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

There was an article about this earlier, and it also claimed "probably impossible", not so much because of cramming four men behind one woman (two men could theoretically be in front, no?) but rather of cramming four men inside one woman...

[edit] Mainstream and porn film industries

Read in today's paper that the industries are bound to merge - I've come across this prediction a few times recently. Anyone have decent links on the subject?--Shtove 17:45, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image

how about a screen capture from this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Blonde_stag_film.ogg

[edit] Ugh

Why does "adult film" redirect to "pornographic film"? As far as I know, an adult-film is one which is made primarily for adults - it does not have to contain pornography for this; it could be a gruesome war film, for example. I vote for creating a new article at "adult film" - does anyone object? Esn 17:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)