Talk:Ramstein airshow disaster

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I happened to be there during that time period. I heard that the Italian pilots had been out drinking all night with co-workers of mine the night before and were basically still drunk when flying the next day. I am sure it was operator error due to intoxication. Did they ever check the bodies for blood alcohol level?

The reason for the Ramstein disaster was sabotage. Some of those airshow pilots were previously involved in a NATO assasination attempt against Lybian president Gadhafi, who was returning at that time from a visit to the USSR in his An-72 plane. Mistakenly the fighter planes shot down Itavia 870, an italian passanger jet DC-9 instead, killing all people on-board. In order to cover up the fiasco, secret services wanting to get rid of witnesses arranged that the italian aerobatics planes have their control systems manipulated and so the planes lost control on radio command. 195.70.32.136 17:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Well this is just a discussion board, so no need to delete any of that bullshit. Unless you have some serious concrete evidence, you have no reason to post that.

If you have documentation for this, please do share it with us.

Septegram 18:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Man Formation?

Under the "Accident Process" section, the text says "After the crash the remaining group had to circle the airbase in missing man formation." There's even a link to "Missing Man formation," but I think it highly unlikely that a ceremonial formation would be used under emergency circumstances like that. Can anyone document this? Septegram 18:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, it's been over a month, and no response. I'm going to delete the reference.

Septegram 14:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rammstein relevance

Regarding this edit: I can agree with the Trivia heading not being appropriate, but the fact that the band Rammstein was named after the event and that one of their first and major songs is a tribute to the event is relevant and definitely relating to the event. --rxnd ( t | € | c ) 07:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. I'm going to replace it, under the heading "References in popular culture". Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 16:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's one more comment, which I trust will serve as final proof of the relevance of this section: at the article 1991 Hamlet chicken processing plant fire, which was recently promoted to FA status, there is a similar section - not one of the FA reviewers thought this was a problem (although one did wonder if it's format should maybe be converted). Convinced now? Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 15:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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