Talk:Resistance during World War II
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[edit] Intro and oddity
The intro is exactly the same as the resistance section in the WWII article (well, not any more - I added one line there but not here). Which will look rather cheap to someone who links from there to here. I almost deleted the intro, but then realised this is the original and I don't want to step on DNA webmaster's toes :) .
By the way, I noticed an odd thing. yesterday I did an edit here (alphabetised the list) and now I see that edit is not in mentioned in the history listing. But the edits did 'stick' (so to say). Strange .... DirkvdM 19:52, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
- I know, I know, I know... .) I started the article because it was requested in the peer review of the WW2 main page, and I hoped people would literally rush their legs off adding onto it. But you are the only one who has done ANYTHING...I myself would have written more if I felt I had deeper knowledge. Hopefully folks will continue the article, since I agree with the peer review that it really should exist. Don't worry about my toes, they are rather small...but thanks for not deleting it (for the common sake). My regards, Dennis Nilsson. Dna-Dennis 03:16, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Communist resistance
I am shocked. There is no article on the Communist resistance yet? I don't know enough about it to write the article, but I do know enough to know that this is an outrage. Considering the size Wikipedia has reached by now, with artiocles on the most minute irrelevant trivia that's unforgivable. To ignore what I believe was the biggest resistance organisation during the biggest war. I've seen some anti-communist bias in Wikipedia, but this is like ignoring its existance. Might the reaon be that any article on that would have to lie too much not to reflect too positively on Communism? :)
Well, I've got that out of my system now. Now I can go to bed. No, better watch some Cheers episodes first to get me back into a good mood. :) DirkvdM 20:11, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Professional Resistance
Could someone explain what professional resistance is?
[edit] Thanks for your contribution, DirkvdM!
Thank you very much for your contribution, DirkvdM! I took the liberty of fixing/reformulating some minor things. And the Dutch focus you mentioned was absolutely minimal; god damn it - we have to start from somewhere! Thanks again! My regards, Dennis Nilsson. Dna-Dennis 03:46, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Verlaine's Poem
The article about the Battle of Normandy is contradicting the information in this article. It says:
One famous pair of these messages is often mistakenly stated to be a general call to arms by the Resistance. A few days before D-Day, the first line of Verlaine's poem, "Chanson d'Automne", was transmitted. "Les sanglots longs des violons de l'automne" [4] (Long sobs of autumn violins) alerted resistants in the Orléans region to attack rail targets within the next few days. The second line, "Bercent mon coeur d'une langueur monotone" (wound my heart with a monotonous langour), transmitted late on June 5, meant that the attack was to be mounted immediately.
The German intelligence service (the Abwehr) had discovered the meaning of this particular pair of messages. They rightly interpreted them to mean that invasion was imminent or underway. On hearing the second part, they alerted their superiors, and all Army commanders in France. Unfortunately for them, they had issued a similar warning a month before, when the Allies had begun invasion preparations and alerted the Resistance, but then stood down because of a forecast of bad weather. The Abwehr having given this false alarm, their genuine alarm was ignored or treated as merely routine.
Which is right?
There is a website Ici Londres that has recordings of the messages, which discusses which version of the poem were used in the broadcasting.Nikolaj Winther 07:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Are Nazi and communist ideologies very similar?
Maybe some of their methods of political power management are similar. Could you document their ideological similarity?
- Both are ideologies promoting totalitarian socialism and government controlled economy. Successful economical, military and know-how training (soviets provided training for Nazis in concentration camp building and other sinister things). Pre-1941 cooperation between communist USSR and Nazi germany just confirms this. Quote from Hitler: "There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will." Sigitas 15:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
