Talk:Rick Jones (comics)
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[edit] Expanded article
Really trying to fill out this article with a little more "meat". Unfortunately, I am very much relying on my memory for the moment as I am creating this... If anyone thinks I may have made a mistake, but you aren't sure enough to edit it out, please post it here: I have a huge collection of back issues featuring Rick Jones, and I can pull out the specific issue to double-check any specific facts.
Rick Jones certainly has quite a history in Marvel, so I think he deserves quite a page. That said, I'm going to continue to post and additional relevant information as I run across it. Time permitting, I'll go back through some of my back issues for more fact-checking and additional notes. --Roger McCoy 11:15, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be wise to mention the imposter/looney Rick Jones who appeared in Alias? admvenom
[edit] Milhous or Milhouse?
Edited the full name from Richard Milhous "Rick" Jones to Richard Milhouse "Rick" Jones. I believe that is the correct spelling for the character's name. Bengt 12:18, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Gamma Bombs?
It's briefly mentioned in the article that Banner, the Grey Hulk, and Rick were looking for Gamma bombs, but that's it. It seems like something fairly important to be mentioned so quickly. If anyone knows any more details please fill it in!--Torourkeus 02:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- It's an interesting story, but not really important to Rick's history in and of itself. You can read about it in the trade paperback The Incredible Hulk: Ground Zero. If any page goes into this, it should really be The Leader's. --Roger McCoy 08:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rick's Superpowers
What were Rick's superpowers and when did he lose them and why?--Torourkeus 02:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Rick doesn't have any powers per se, but he has been able to access the Destiny Force, which is accessible by all humans. Rick was able to use this to pull heroes out of his imagination, and this became the crucial factor in the conclusion of the Kree-Skrull War. This really deserves some more space, and maybe even it's own article. Maybe I'll get around to expanding this one day... In the meantime, check out The Avengers: The Kree-Skrull War TPB or the appropriate Essential Avengers -- I think Vol. 4 is the one. --Roger McCoy 08:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rick and Death
All it says about Rick being brought back to life is that he and half of the universe were brought back to life during 'ensuing events' what events were those? Also, the last paragraph of the death section brings up a lot without a lot of explaination or background. This last paragraph gave me a lot of questions:
- What were Rick's health problems?
- Why was the Supreme Intelligence captive, and by who?
- How did that mark "the beginning of the Destiny War?"
- I think most importantly, how was rick joined with Genis-Vell?
More questions about Rick and Death come up later in the Genis-Vell section of the article. How was it that Thanos attempted to separate Death and Marlo, and how did it result in Rick getting aged and without an arm?--Torourkeus 02:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Some of this could probably use expansion, but I'm much too tired to do it right now... Maybe someday.
- In the meantime, here's what I can remember:
- All it says about Rick being brought back to life is that he and half of the universe were brought back to life during 'ensuing events' what events were those?
- Can't remember. Till I can, check out the Infinity Gauntlet TPB. The The Infinity Gauntlet (series) article would probably be a better place to go into this though, and a link should be added from here once that article is expanded.
- What were Rick's health problems?
- As mentioned in a preceding paragraph, "Rick was crippled by the Hulk". Specifically, he was confined to a wheelchair.
- How did that mark "the beginning of the Destiny War?"
- Follow the link in your comment to Destiny War for the answer to this.
- I think most importantly, how was rick joined with Genis-Vell?
- I'll have to dig out the Avengers Forever TPB one of these days and give you a better answer, but as I recall his older self somehow joined them to heal Rick's injuries sustained in the Destiny War. I don't think much is given in the way of details as to how he did this if that's what your looking for.
- There's definitely some room for expansion here based on your questions. Maybe one of these days I'll get around to re-reading my quoted sources and expanding these out. Till then, hope this gets you started. --Roger McCoy 08:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The fourth wall?
At the end of the Genis section, it says that Rick gets an awareness that the Captain Marvel comic series was ending. Was this literal? Did Rick break the fourth wall? In the "Other notes" section this is brought up again, and if possible I'm curious what plot points he wanted ended.--Torourkeus 02:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- This was literal, although it was done more for the sake of humor and expediency than anything else, and shouldn't be taken too seriously. Plot points resolved included the separation of Rick and Captain Marvel (as mentioned in the article) and explaining away Marlo's lesbian relationship with Moondragon as subconscious influence by a villain. I believe most of the other points resolved involved issues that weren't terribly important. Since the problems they solved were not probably mentioned in this article in the first place, going into detail about their resolutions would probably only generate more confusion. Again, I may have to go back and re-read this to confirm it. Till then, check out Captain Marvel Volume 4: Odyssey. --Roger McCoy 08:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] General Desc
You guys sure this is necessary: Rick Jones' career might be summed up in one word: "super-groupie". ? It's funny, but it just doesn't look right to have it on the article... What you say? Kajito 22:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nixon
I deleted the line "It is presumed that he was named after Richard Milhaus Nixon" because it is both unreferenced and makes no sense. Rick first appeared in May of 1962, and he was a teen-ager with his own car, making him at least 16. That means he was born before May of 1946, months before Nixon got his first public office as a California Congressman. Rick was a local to the testing grounds in Nevada (or New Mexico?); why would he be named after Nixon? His parents (or the staff of the orphanage where he was raised) would probably never have heard of this California lawyer. As to Stan Lee, he was more likely to have been thinking of Rick Nelson from the Ozzie & Harriet show, a famous clean-cut teenager who even looks a bit like Jones. Rosencomet 20:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Where, in fact, does the middle name "Milhaus" come from? It's not on the Marvel database or official Marvel website. Rosencomet 20:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- This article is the first time I've seen "Milhaus" as his middle name (or any middle name given for the character). As for the presumption that Rick was too young to have been named after Nixon....you do realize that, with Marvel characters (well, many comics characters, but let's stick with Marvel) not aging to a significant degree, Rick Jones is now too young to have been born in the '40s? Pardon my poking holes in your argument, but with Rick being somewhere in his late twenties, maybe early thirties at most, he would have been born no earlier than the mid-'70s to early '80s. With that in mind, if there is any published proof to back up "Milhaus", it's quite possible he was named after Nixon. - Pennyforth 22:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)