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Welcome to my talk page. Please leave a message below and I will reply on your talk page. Thanks and happy editing! Ruhrfisch 16:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Repeated histories 2 Pennsylvania 3 DYK 4 AMA case closed 5 NC Map 6 The Reason 7 Mill Creek 8 Nearby state parks 9 Re:Hermitage Township 10 Featured 11 Illinois State Parks. 12 Re: 13 Pictures 14 Re: Ohio county infoboxes 15 State maps 16 Indiana 17 Tionesta 18 Pictures 19 Peer Review

[edit] Repeated histories

I have a question. What should I do about the repeated histories that are coming up at West Branch Susquehanna River, History of Lycoming County and West Branch Susquehanna Valley. Obviously the histories of these article are going to be very similar as will the histories of the creeks, townships, cities and boroughs. Should I keep up what I've been doing? The repeated information is beginning to bother me. Dincher 22:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I found a mistake in the opening sentence. The Recreation Demonstration Area program (also known as the Recreation Demonstration Area program). It's definetly a DYK. ...that the RDA program was founded during the Great Depression to build 46 parks near urban areas in the United States. I figured that RR would have to wait for Antes Creek. I've been thinking alot about that stream. I wish I could go see it now! It's captured my attention. Do fish swim from the river all the way to Ravensburg? They must. Has anyone ever tried to go underground with the creek? Probably. Did they live? What's it like underground? Is it a cave? It must be. Are there strange types of fish in the cave? This list goes on and on. Dincher 01:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Here is a bit of a mind bender for me this late at night. [1] I will read it more later, but wanted to pass it on for now. It's about the Nippenose Valley, Sugar Valley, and Antes Creek. Good luck on the DYK I am sure it will make it. Maybe I'll clear up some red links. I need a break from The History of Lycoming County. I am excited about FLC, but very confident.Dincher 03:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC) Freaky Fish here [2] way way way over my head. Dincher 03:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you have any information about the grange? I think it has a historical marker sign too. Dincher 04:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Eagle Grange # 1 is up and running. Let me see if I can guess the DYK. ...that Eagle Grange # 1 in Clinton Township, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania was the first grange to be established in Pennsylvania? or something to that effect or is it affect? My Dad would know the answer. Dincher 18:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Aisle weight two here about your success with the picture. I wonder if we could get it on the list? I think the whole grounds of Central Oak Heights would be a good candidate for the National Register of Historic places too. Dincher 19:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The submission is in. Dincher 19:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pennsylvania

Sorry about that...must of being doing too many things when I gave it a GA. 1312020Wikicop 02:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you think I should go ahead and make it a candidate to be rated GA or do you think the article needs more work? 1312020Wikicop 02:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I think we should also change the importance rating to at least high. I think it could be "top" since its a list of state parks in Pennsylvania, and in my opinion that is important to the state. 1312020Wikicop 03:07, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

FLC is looking really good. No opposition yet. I had to think about what "RDA's" are. Thanks for helping with the NC map. I thought about asking, but didn't want to add more to your list. I got into "trouble" tonight for adding too many talkheaders. I hadn't read the directions regarding talkheaders, so it was my fault. Another bore at Penney's. Hearing ladies talk about the colors of their draperies isn't exactly fun. The weather here is spectacular. Spring has sprung in North Carolina. Dincher 01:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I am also puzzled about the lack of activity on FLC. At least the comments are good. Thanks for the map! I will get started on adding the maps to the articles really soon. The map you placed is very near to where we will be spending part of my wonderful three weeks off! Dincher 01:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

When do you think the FLC process will be over?Dincher 03:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Other state parks with iron furnaces are Pine Grove Furnace State Park, Kings Gap State Park, Greenwood Furnace State Park, I think Canoe Creek State Park, that may have been a lime kiln. I am not sure about the rest. I just took a brief glimpse on the list and none jumped out at me. Mentioning the industrial past would be a good idea. Dincher 14:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the latest comment about the List of Pennsylvania state parks sortable problem I have posted a few ideas on the talk page. Dincher 15:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC) It didn't work. Dan has an idea too, hopefully his will work. Dincher 16:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: etymology Pennsylvania

The source was a book on Welsh history i read last year. Either one of mine or one from the library. Can't remember which one so I'll look for it on the net as it's bound to be there somewhere. My mistake on the translation....Pen is Welsh so i assumed Sylvania was Welsh too :-) . The main problem is I have trouble adding cites without messing it up and usually ask someone to do it for me. If I find a source I'll message it to you. Wayne 02:32, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

It was easier than I thought as there is quite a bit about the naming of Pennsylvania on the net. This is one link to the etymology I used.

http://www.welshdragon.net/resources/people/wmpennshtml.shtml

This letter from William Penn to Robert Turner is possibly the original source so what I wrote will need modification. From this it seems that the King thought it was named after Penn's father in error. I’ll leave that up to you if you prefer:

"This day, my country was confirmed to me under the great seal of England, with privileges, by the name of Pennsylvania, a name the King would give it in honour of my father. I chose New Wales, being as this, a pretty, hilly country, but Penn being Welsh for head as in Penman moire, in Wales, and Penrith, in Cumberland, and Penn, in Buckinghamshire, called this Pennsylvania, which is the high or head woodlands; for I proposed, when the secretary, a Welshman, refused to have it called New Wales, Sylvania and they added Penn to it, and though I opposed it and went to the King to have it struck out and altered he said it was past, nor could twenty guineas move the under-secretary to vary the name.”

Here is a photo of the only known painted portrait of Penn that should perhaps be on the bio page.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~CAP/PENN/pnintro.html

This link is the Penn family geneology/history, which contains a considerable amount of Pennsylvania’s history as well, so may be of interest to you.

http://www.csm.uwe.ac.uk/~rstephen/livingeaston/local_history/Penn/Penn_family_Index.html

BTW I found mention (in Pepys’ diary) that the Kings debt (including interest) to Penn was £20,000 ($20,000,000 in today’s money). Wayne 09:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 16 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Recreational Demonstration Area, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--BigHaz - Schreit mich an 08:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

It's my turn to congratulate you this time! Dincher 20:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I hope that you are enjoying your wiki break. I am nearly finished with the nearby state parks. I think I only have a few left. I saved the ones that are near other states for last. There is a few near Philly that need doin' and then those that are near central Maryland. I'll be working tonight and working more with Lycoming Counties many townships. Still waiting on FLC aren't we? Sunny and 60 degrees =) Dincher 17:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I know that taking a wikibreak can be difficult. I feel bad when I don't do work. I expanded a few more township, now I think I will do some mindless work, too. But will feel guilty for not doing more township work. (The joys of being Catholic or maybe it's just being German) Remember let the "fire" burn itself out. ;-) Dincher 21:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What is the checklist of which you are speaking? I am confused. Dincher 03:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC) oH YEAH I FORGOT. Dincher 04:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AMA case closed

Hi there, I spoke to NFL after your last email and it seems as if he knows what it is he wants to do. Which would be taking the dispute to a higher power in wikipedia. Since he doesn't seek my mediation and I'm done dealing with him, I'm closing the AMA case. Now we'll really see what wikipedia decides. Best of luck. By the way, I'm going to begin posting all the emails on the AMA discussion page, if you need to add some, please do so.
Blah0401 01:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I went and got all of the instances of any real emails and names out. Now that this is over i can say finally that I think you did the right thing and as far as I can see wikipedia has decided already as can be seen by the comments left on my 'poll' attempt.
Blah0401 01:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

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Rurhfish just want to let you know...don't gloat too much, I'm laughing at your seemingly success - I couldn't care less, except that Wikipedia has proven itself biased. I will continue to take you and Blah0401, and your biased actions to Wikipedia. Have a great day! PS: I hope you will read my comments on Newton Falls, Ohio page about my username.

DaVoice 16:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

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Rührfisch - how is it ya olé bursche? Hope this Easter holiday finds you well. Just thought I'd drop by to let you know I'm still here. DaVoice 20:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NC Map

Ah, I like it! Thanks! Zanter 14:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Reason

The reason I reverted your change in the Lancaster county Template is because ther were some unincorporated communities that you left out. ''[[User:Kitia|Kitia'']] 16:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

...I put in 1909 is that I was bold. The other dates would work too, 1924 might even be better. The sentence about the uncertainty of the dates sounds like a good idea. Could go in now. Why not? I am working on Central Oak Heights now. Ever heard of it? Dincher 15:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mill Creek

I am working on Mill Creek Township right now. I state that Mill Creek is a tributary of Loyalsock Creek I am not sure of this. Do you know? Its either Loyalsock or Muncy Creek my guess is Loyalsock Creek based on fuzzy memories. Dincher 23:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking that for me. It's good to know that my memories are still in working order. Dincher 00:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It won't hurt to have Central Oak Heights, Pennsylvania as its name, maybe I'll make it a redirect. It does not have a post office. It's post office is West Milton. It's a really nice place. I have been there tons and tons of times. Lots of wonderful memories. Dincher 01:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

We just got some more support. I disagree with the suggestion that we eliminate the space between the notes. The space keeps them seperate. Dincher 23:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nearby state parks

I think I have only 5 more state parks to check distance. Mt. Pisgah, Salt Springs, Buchanan's Birthplace, Caledonia and Mont Alto. Dincher 01:48, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing up the counties. That was next on my list of things to do. Now I ain't gotta do it. Hopefully all the nearby state parks will be done by the end of the weekend. Dincher 04:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I was going to ask you about an introductory sentence regarding the distances. Great mind thinks alike! Dincher 04:40, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll check Hillman and Laurel Ridge. I found a few others too, Cowans Gap, Ryerson Station, Hillman and Raccoon Creek. Dincher 16:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

State parks are becoming a problem for me. I think about them way too much. I worked on the MD state parks some today. They are a mess. I am sure that you've seen that I've been working on the TopoZone references. I was sloppy on most of them in the beginning. It's been crazy at JCP, power went out, I see that the Buckeyes won again. Good! Dincher 01:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

• There already is a Maryland locator map. See here. Saint Clement's Island State Park. It could be made to look more like the PA and NC maps. But I am not going to work in the MD parks anytime in the near future. I have thought about working NC and OH parks. I see you're done with the nearby state parks. I will add Pymatuning to my list to check. Now it should just be the parks near Ohio that I need to check. Dincher 04:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

NEARBY STATE PARKS ARE DONE!!!! Dincher 03:18, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Hermitage Township

My atlas gives Hermitage Township, but that's my only source. Since that's wrong, what is that area? Is the entire township a city or borough? I'm confused. Thanks! Nyttend 04:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I understand better now. Thanks! Nyttend 05:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured

I saw today that we got featured! That's pretty cool. You did a really good job with making the list. I am waiting for the cool looking "tags" to add to my awards page. You can go ahead and thank the folks. Thanks! Dincher 17:04, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I tried to put the star for featured list at the top of the PA list and it didn't work. Dincher 17:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats, and glad to help. : ) IvoShandor 18:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome for the support, but you should be the one being thanked for helping write such wonderful artilces. :) – Zntrip 20:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I still don't see a star on my computer for the List of Pennsylvania state parks. I think I have done what the directions say. I am pretty stupid when it comes to that kind of stuff on computers. I have also tried to put a maintenance tag on the list for myself and have repeatedly failed. I can get everything but my name in the box. Repeated failure again. I saw the request from the Illinois people. It's good to know that the list is going to serve as a model. Dincher 03:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats on the featured list. You and Dincher did a great job with this list. VerruckteDan 04:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Illinois State Parks.

I saw that impressive template of Pennsylvania state parks that you did, wow. I was wondering if you would be able to do one for Illinois? If not, that is ok. Just be a lot longer trying to figure it out is all.--Kranar drogin 20:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think the first one and foremost I would really like to get done is one similar to {{State parks of Pennsylvania map}}. I think that we might need a template like this {{Protected Areas of Pennsylvania}}, but I am not sure yet. I suppose we are going to have to start our physical geography page of the Illinois project and get some ideas going. There is really only a handful of us doing this project, so participation will be limited. Prolly what we could do to make things easier on you is at the very least stub all the parks out with that infobox and a limited amount of information and maybe a website to them. Anyways, enough rambling, yeah, the first map I mentioned with the dots is the one I was originally talking about.--Kranar drogin 23:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:

Dear Ruhrfisch,

No need to apologize. Your comments and contributions have been nothing but very helpful throughout the peer review process, nomination process and I am confident that will only improve the article this time again. I am not familiar with all policies and all potential pitfalls of various aspects of the article, so this alert is much appreciated! LaSaltarella 22:00, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

I see you're busy putting up some pictures. I like them. Especially the Hagermans Run Reservoir. When I saw that you put a pic up on Armstrong Township, I couldn't think of what you could've possibly put there. There's a whole lot of nothing other than a mountain and woods in Armstrong Township. Dincher 20:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Would you like ideas for pictures for all the wonderful places in Lycoming County? I have a few. Thanks for creating the maintenance page, too. Dincher 20:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The Illinois map looks good. I think the bigger map will allow for more accurately placed dots. Some dots are going to cover entire counties here in NC. But it does seem to be really big. I'll send you some ideas for pics soon. I am excited about the Dunkard Church one. That's always been an interesting little place. I've been working on the NC state parks. TopoZone isn't my friend in NC some of these parks are not easy to find. Dincher 04:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Ohio county infoboxes

I found a source stating that the Ohio General Assembly approved the creation of Logan County on 30 December 1817, but everywhere else I've seen 1818; I'd guess that it took at least a few days to get the news from Columbus, everybody gathered, the records sent north from Xenia, and everything else. I wish I had a good source for this, but the county website isn't the most helpful for sure. Nyttend 04:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] State maps

Hey Ruhrfisch, I've got a question for you. The maps you've created for Pennsylvania and Illinois, could you explain the process of creating them? I'd like to create some for others states and even of individual counties. Thanks. VerruckteDan 05:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indiana

Sure we can tackle the Indiana State Parks. I already made a few changes. I'll work on expanding the articles. Dincher 04:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

White River State Park is missing from this list [3]. I wonder what gives? I will look into it. Dincher 15:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Looked into it and found this [4]. So do you think it should be on the wikipedia list of Indiana State Parks? Dincher 15:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

If life was easy, I don't think it would be much fun. That locator map is going to things a little bit easier. I think I will add info boxes today. Dincher 16:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tionesta

I saw you stubbed Tionesta Creek. Awesome. I have a bunch of photos, some on Commons. I look forward to expanding the article. IvoShandor 07:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

I looked at your pictures for Lycoming County on the wiki commons. I would like to move some of them to the wikipedia side. Is this easily done? This is something I can do when I am at work if I don't have to first save them to the computer's hard drive. And I think that this

is a great picture and would be a good candidate for feature pic. What do you think? Dincher 04:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Given that this thread is related to your picture on the PPR i'll save some space on your talk page. I took a look at the full version, nice size. It has a seconder so go ahead and nominate it. It is, by all standards, a good shot but in my opinion it might have some trouble passing FPC for a couple of reasons: it doesn't have any particular 'wow factor' (a criteria), the composition is ok but a bit more perspective on either side of the bridge would help, and also the image is somewhat muddy with either artifacts, high iso grain, motion blur or the like. By all means nominate it, as it is a good picture and i am only one man but dont be surprised if the same things are brought up. best wishes -Fcb981 06:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Good luck on the nomination. Was it your intention to show the arch in your picture? Dincher 14:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Well it looks like the covered bridge will not make the cut. I don't understand the problem with the trees. I liked the trees. They belong there. But the grange photo is going to make the main page. See here [5] I hope your Easter was happy. I got a picture of Lumber River State Park today. Dincher 02:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer Review

You will be pleased to hear that I have discovered that the combination of OSX and Firefox enables AndyZ's amazing machine to work for me and I hope I won't be pestering you any more about this. I am now slowly working up to taking the FA plunge and have posted Wikipedia:Peer review/Renewable energy in Scotland. All the best. Ben MacDui (Talk) 08:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)