User talk:Sam Blacketer

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Contents 1 Did you know 2 DYK 3 How do you do Wikipedia? 4 JADE GOODY 5 Troll account 6 Barnstar 7 Surviving MPs 8 Barnstar 9 Brian Peppers 10 DYK 11 Cascadia's Comment 12 DYK 13 Message from "A. Vandal" 14 Jade Goody 15 David Cameron 16 Italian 17 Assuming good faith 18 Canister of Death 19 Shaun Woodward 20 Donald McIntosh Johnson 21 Cameron 22 Diana, Princess of Wales 23 Jimmothyjimbo 24 Thank you/Correction 25 Warnings 26 Trollish username

Archived material has been removed to User talk:Sam Blacketer/Archive 1-50. Sam Blacketer 09:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

On 13 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Otho Prior-Palmer, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 06:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Did you know? was updated. On 15 March 2007, a fact from the article Killing of David Wilkie, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 14:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How do you do Wikipedia?

How do you do Wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Achtung juden (talk • contribs) 23:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

Let the Force guide you. Oh yes. Paki U Like 23:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] JADE GOODY

Dear Sam

Whilst I realise that you have to monitor changes that are made to Wikipedia, can I please ask exactly why my recent changes to the JADE GOODY page were removed. As far as I am aware, Wikipedia is there to provide factual information to the user community, and in my view, the information I entered into that particular page was indeed factual & informative.

I apologise if my addition was deemed offensive, however the JADE GOODY information as it stood did not provide a true picture of the individual concerned.

I am not a "vandal", I am a right minded person who speaks their mind when I see fit.

Kind Regards

Wikipedia User —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.135.224.234 (talk) 11:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

I have replied on User talk:86.135.224.234. Sam Blacketer 11:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Jade is a nice lady.KiddiFiddler 18:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I have changed my user name as requested. Khidiphydla 20:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Troll account

I noticed your WP:AIV post, guess I don't watch the news often enough... Seems a pretty obvious troll account, so I've blocked. You can tag the page and image with speedy G3 (vandalism) when they are that obvious... --pgk 10:45, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Your deletion of it came while I was doing just that! Sam Blacketer 10:46, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Thank you very much! I especially like the design. Timrollpickering 15:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surviving MPs

Out of interst is there any source for the order in which Foot, Freeman & Renton and later Carr, Deedes & Harris took the oath in? The earliest surviving former MP is occassionally called the "Grandfather of the House" and I'd guess the order of taking the oath would settle between claimaints elected at the same time, as it does for the Father of the House. Timrollpickering 15:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Naturally there is a source - the Hansards for the beginning of the 1945 Parliament. I hadn't heard of the "Grandfather of the House" before but I might be able to check the order tomorrow. Sam Blacketer 16:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Thanks very much Sam!!! It's really nice to get one of these and I'm very grateful. You may have noticed my contributions have become scarcer recently, partly because I've been busy and I'm slowly working on a list of all living former British MPs (in fact I'm not even sure Wikipedia would accept such an article). Incidentally, I've not heard Grandfather of the House either but, I believe the the oldest former MP (rather than the time he was first elected) is Bert Hazell, who is just one month away from his 100th birthday. Dovea 20:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the barnstar; I will wear it with pride! I'm continuing work on various UK Parliament-related articles, although I've recently become a bit sidetracked into Northern Ireland Assembly and Parliament stuff. Warofdreams talk 03:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brian Peppers

Hello. I am not Brian Peppers, OK? Brine Pepaz 13:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not Brian Peppers and neither is my wife, Ramadanadingdong 18:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 20 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chester Wilmot, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 14:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cascadia's Comment

In regard to Cascadia's comment about my age, plese keep that a secret between you, me, and Cascadia. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 18:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, I am trying to. I hope you understand that I wanted to mention it in your defence. Sam Blacketer 18:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 21 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Norman Hulbert, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 00:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

On March 30, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article David Robertson (UK politician), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Keep up the great work! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Message from "A. Vandal"

Hey,

As much as you might hate vandalism, if you have ever seen or heard Jade Goody then you will understand why her page gets continually vandalised and moreover the vandalism is thoroughly warranted as it reflects the utter hatred for this putrid woman amongst the general public. So it totally bewilders me why anyone in their right mind would want to protect this woman’s page, she deserves everything that comes to her.

Regards,

A. Vandal —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.78.103.235 (talk • contribs) 08:28, March 21, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jade Goody

Hey,

As much as you might hate vandalism, if you have ever seen or heard Jade Goody then you will understand why her page gets continually vandalised and moreover the vandalism is thoroughly warranted as it reflects the utter hatred for this putrid woman amongst the general public. So it totally bewilders me why anyone in their right mind would want to protect this woman’s page, she deserves everything that comes to her.

If you dont know who Jade Goody is i suggest you read her article on wikipedia, in short she is arguably the most hated woman in the UK at the moment. I suggest you think twice before defending her page in the future.

Regards,

A. Vandal —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.78.103.235 (talk • contribs) 09:20, March 21, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] David Cameron

Hi Sam, I actually think Vernon Bogdanor and Michael Green are quite well known figures in their field and many members of the British public may be aware of them. Tim Rathbone was also a noted anti apartheid activist and pro european. It's surprising that Michael Green doesn't have an article at all- I'll try and start one some time this week. I think also that a reference is needed for the statement at the end of the intro:

"after presenting himself as a young and moderate candidate who would appeal to young voters. His leadership has seen the Conservative party establish a clear lead in opinion polls." Forbear 21:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Italian

I would prefer that you don't make similar corrections also in talk pages. --Checco 11:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Your preference is noted but I disagree with it. Some people doing disambiguation link repair also go into user space. Sam Blacketer 11:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assuming good faith

Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. ~ UBeR 22:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

An assumption is something which should be dropped when circumstances indicate the contrary. I'm sorry if you were offended but reporting a long-established user who had not edited the page in question for over 12 hours is definitely a bad faith report. Sam Blacketer 22:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Sam, Please stop with the fallacious argumentum ad verecundiam (appealing to authority); it makes my eyes bleed. Plus it's contrary to what Wikipedia policy tells us to do. Don't look at the editor, look at the edits. It's naive to think administrators, regardless of their tenure, cannot possibly break a rule or are exempt from the same rules that apply to other users. His actions of erroneously removing a bona fide template is vandalism. I've discussed it on the article talk page and warned William, but he ignores it. If this isn't vandalism, Sam, I don't know what it. My report was in good faith, so please assume so. You ought to know better. ~ UBeR 23:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It was the edits I looked at. WP:AIV is for urgent action for vandalism that is going on now. William M. Connolley last edited the page you reported him over a full 13 hours 36 minutes before you made the report. Your report was in clear bad faith. In any case I have now looked at the article and I do not regard his edits as vandalism at all. It looks like a straightforward dispute over a template addition. It would only be vandalism if William was not making a good faith attempt to improve the encyclopaedia, and there is no reason to cast doubt on his intentions in this matter. Sam Blacketer 23:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, you aren't looking at his authority, despite your appeals to his tenure ("a long-established user"). As for the time gap, I am not available on Wikipedia 24 hours a day, even if I wish I could be. I inserted the bona fide template. After leaving, he reverted, and I did not come back for quite some time. I mean, just look at what Wikipedia has wrote. Ignore, if you must, what I'm writing and just look at the rules: "Do not remove [templates] unless you are sure that all stated reasons for the dispute are settled. As a general rule, do not remove other people's dispute tags twice during a 24 hour period." I don't think it gets any clearer! Given his edit warring behavior and past misbehavior in other articles, I think it is reasonable to consider his actions as vandalism and reoccurring, making it necessary for action to be taken against his behavior. ~ UBeR 23:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

A "general rule" is not an "absolute one". The article History of the Yosemite area does cite sources both generally and inline, which makes a template asserting it to be unreferenced, prima facie unwarranted. In such circumstances I would have struggle to regard the addition of the template to be a good faith addition to the encyclopaedia. Sorry that I am not going to see eye to eye with you on this one, but I am now going to bed. Sam Blacketer 23:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

What template do you suggest then, for articles that are made up primarily of unattributable statements? WP:ATT clearly suggests the {{unreferenced}}, precisely what I have done. ~ 23:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canister of Death

Seriously, what good will this ridiculous username policy do to Wikipedia? What about this? I am in doubt that other users will find my name "morbid and threatening" and I will leave it this way until otherwise. --Canister of Death 22:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. I'm afraid I am not in agreement with you and will seek the views of the wider Wikipedia community. Sam Blacketer 22:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I would appreciate if you stop addressing your message in a greeting like a robot, and it appears you are projecting your message as if I'm unaware about the usernname policy. I am not a buffoon. I am unable to brainstorm a username that could surpass my current name. --Canister of Death 22:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry if you don't like the standard templates and I do appreciate how they look somewhat impersonal. However, I use them because they provide the links to all the pages which are relevant. I hope you appreciate that I had a duty to inform you of the discussion of your username. If the discussion results in the name being allowed, you will not have to change it, of course. Sam Blacketer 23:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shaun Woodward

The information about Woodward was sourced and therefore relevant. His voting record can be located here (as I have said once before): www.theyworkforyou.com. I will display this information as it is relevant to the public. ~~Rgp1~~30 March

[edit] Donald McIntosh Johnson

On 31 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Donald McIntosh Johnson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 06:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cameron

Hi I think it is important that someone so close to Cameron was a Conservative M.P. and that David had experience of working with the Conservatives at such a young age. I see CityGuy agrees with me. Forbear 22:31, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi to point out that he has "been involved in British politics for much of his adult life" and the fact he worked for a Conservative M.P. before even going to University underlines that. Forbear 22:39, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diana, Princess of Wales

Bit puzzled as I removed three obvious fomatting erors (footnotes and below)... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.45.194.71 (talk • contribs).

You are right and I was wrong. Sorry. Sam Blacketer 23:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jimmothyjimbo

I am sorry that my username happens to include "jimbo" but I had no intention of impersonating Jimbo Wales. I always thought that "jimbo" was quite common as a name and as a username. In fact, I had no idea that Jimbo Wales even existed on Wikipedia (until now). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jimmothyjimbo (talk • contribs).

Thanks for getting back. Having read what you wrote I don't think there's any danger of people confusing you with Jimbo Wales, so my doubts are entirely resolved. Happy editing! Sam Blacketer 21:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you/Correction

Thank you for your support. As I pointed out on the RfA, I was never the lawyer for the Foundation. I simply worked in the office. Danny 22:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction, knew it was something like that, and fortunately it doesn't touch my !voting rationale. Sam Blacketer 23:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Warnings

Why have you put a test 3 warning on my talk page like I've vandalised about 4 times when I have only done it once? 81.154.213.123 10:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Because the page you chose was User:Jimbo Wales, because the tags you added were seriously disruptive, and because they demonstrate a knowledge of the working of Wikipedia which is clearly beyond that of a very new user. There is no requirement for you actually to have three incidents of vandalism before you get the third level warning. Indeed I was considering giving you a "once and final warning". Sam Blacketer 10:36, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm Sorry, it won't happen again, I'll contribute nicely. 81.154.213.123 10:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trollish username

Kick his limey white ass Sammy! ROFLZ!!!11 Bumrape 21:48, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

User now blocked. Sam Blacketer 21:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)