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could someone please add a schooner glass article?

[edit] The Étoile

Is the Étoile really a schooner ? I am asking this because she has a square sail on top of her foremost mast; does this change anything ? Rama 16:16, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

A schooner with a square sail on top of her foremost mast is a topsail schooner, most definitly a schooner. (unknown user and date)

Question - what is it called when a ship has 3 masts - first is square rigged, others are not? The Australian "schooner" Svanen has such a rig but I can't find this type listed on wikipedia. Pics here http://www.svanen.com.au/

SpookyMulder 11:48, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

The definition of "schooner" is clear when talking about a two masted ship--if the foremast is shorter or equal to the main (aft) mast, and it's primarily fore-and-aft rigged, then it's a schooner; if the shorter mast is to the rear, it's either a ketch or yawl depending on the position of the aft mast relative to the rudder--a ketch sets the mast forward of the rudder, a yawl aft. A single square rigged topsail is acceptable on a schooner. Anything that has square sails and fore and aft sails might be considered a hermaphrodite; see for example Hermaphrodite brig. A ship with a gaff rig on the rearmost mast (called a spanker) is still considered square rigged, and wouldn't qualify as a hermaphrodite. The 3 masted ship you are talking about would probably be a barquentine. scot 15:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Schooners

Some of the vessels listed as "famous" schooners don't even appear to be notable, let alone famous. Should we arrive at some sort of criteria for what constitutes a "famous" vessel to avoid this turning into listcruft? For that matter, is there a page elsewhere with such guidelines? Susan Davis 21:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Red Witch

The listing for Red Witch -- and the vessel's own web site -- claims that she's a topsail schooner, but she's not equipped with yards for carrying a square topsail. Is there some fact about her that's not apparent that makes her a topsail schooner? Susan Davis 21:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I would guess that they mean that she carries a gaff topsail. Mangoe 21:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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