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[edit] Affiliate

I noticed a change made to this page, which moved the 7 Darwin affiliate to the "Seven network owned" section, with a note saying it was Southern Cross owned. I reverted it back as that is the point of different sections of the list. 7 Darwin is just that, 7 Darwin, an affilate, and not part of the Seven Network anymore than Southern Cross Ten Victoria (to choose an example) is part of Network Ten. 7 Central is also an affilate, owned by Southern Cross, and also badged as 7, so why wouldn't that be moved as well? Because it isn't in a capital city? Then how about moving Southern Cross Tasmania and SC Ten Capital to the first list as well? You see what I mean... the lists (this list and also the Nine Network and Network Ten affilate lists) need to be consistent, otherwise there's no point.

Maybe sorting by station ownership isn't the best way to go, in which case feel free to re-arrange the list - but not just one item in the list at random.

I plan to do a more detailed table on the List of Australian television channels page detailing affiliates and stations in Australia. --Chuq 12:58, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)~

[edit] Current Lawsuit

Should comment be made (possibly in the Sport's section) about the lawsuit on Seven that was started today Lochok 09:06, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Not sure. It's already mentioned on C7. DynaBlast 05:32, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

i noticed that at the top of the page it states that 7 is the biggest television network when further down the page it states it is #2.

I assume the first means largest as in highest potential viewing population, while the #2 is related to television ratings. DynaBlast 04:45, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Seven owns metro stations in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth, as well as Seven Queensland (based in Maroochydore) and possibly some other regional stations in Western Australia. The Nine Network, on the other hand, owns Stations in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, as well as the Darwin station while Nine Adelaide and Perth are owned by separate companies and are effectively affiliates. Seven is the largest commercial network, while Nine has had better ratings figures (although recently Seven appears to be challenging Nine in this area). JB

[edit] But what is Channel Seven?

Please don't laugh. I followed a link to "Channel Seven", which redirected me here. Perhaps I am not a careful reader, but I couldn't actually find a mention of this anywhere in the article. I gather on IRC that "Channel Seven" is generally used to mean "Seven Network"? Was Channel Seven an early name which is now not used? Would it be worth altering the lead paragraph to something along the lines of "Seven Network, known popularly as Channel Seven,..." or similar?

--Telsa 12:13, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Generally the terms "Seven" and "Channel 7" are used interchangebly. ie, "What's on (Channel) Seven?" Part of this is because Seven broadcasts on channel 7 (frequency), as well as the obvious on-air branding (the 7 logo). Seven refer to themselves the Seven Network. ie, "The following program is rated PG. The Seven Network recommends viewing by..." In terms of Wikipedia, "Seven Network" is more formal and appropriate. This is also the logic behind the naming of the Nine Network and Network Ten. DynaBlast 11:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Seven Network (Operations) Limited (ACN 052 845 262) of Level 2, 38-42 Pirrama Road, Pyrmont, NSW 2009.
Seven Network Limited (ACN 052 816 789)

[edit] Links??

  • Do we need a external link to Seven Perth, we dont have them for all state stations or is Seven Perth seperate in some way? Mike 05:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Seven Perth is the only state station website. DynaBlast 07:52, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The most free to air channel?

The Seven Network is Australia's largest television network, owning the most free to air channel in Australia.

Perhaps this should be:

  • the most watched free to air channel
  • the most number of free to air channels

In either case, is there a link to attach to this claim?

This sentence is referring to the stations that are owned by the Seven Network, which are:
(Seven Network programming is aired throughout the rest of the countries on stations owned by its affiliates, not the Seven Network.)
Considering the population reached by these owned stations, the Seven Network is the largest television network in Australia. Network Ten is the second largest, owning stations in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth. The Nine Network is the third largest, with only stations in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Darwin.
I'm not sure how to articulate that idea in a concise statement. Hopefully someone can find a way to fix it up though, because the sentence does not read correctly to people without prior knowledge of the station ownerships in Australia. Tntnnbltn 16:33, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I have reworded the sentence. It is the largest by population coverage. By area, it would be Imparja, WIN, Southern Cross or Prime. By number of stations, it would probably be SC or WIN. Also, we are talking about stations owned by the network, not affiliates. This brings me to the question.. although Nine Adelaide and Nine Perth are not owned by PBL, are they part of the Nine Network, or affiliates?
Also - I have made some maps on Talk:List of Australian television channels which may be of interest. -- Chuq 09:13, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

Can you people just choose a spelling and stop acting so childish about it. Also, in respect to the last person who edited the article, if you are going to go around changing the spelling just to prove a point you might want to actually look at what you're changing, as now all the broken wikilinks you created have to be edited. Slj 15:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

As this article is about an Australian television network, Australian English should be used (it's in the MOS somewhere). "Program" is by far the most accepted spelling in Australian English. That's why articles such as Sunrise (TV program) and List of programs broadcast by Seven Network are located where they are. The spelling should be kept at "Program". Tntnnbltn 15:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seven Network-NBC Link

It seems that whenever NBC was using a new slogan during the 80's, Seven got the slogan as well. The 1989 movie opener was borrowed from NBC's. Should this go into great detail or should it be merely included as a side note? 71.111.232.40 18:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Seven Network tag

Template:Seven Network tag has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. J Ditalk 20:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Idiot cameramen

Anyone else had the experience of moving past a camera, having the moron walk into your path then having the idiot standing next to the cameraman abusing you and saying 'don't touch the camera' when he walked into you?

[edit] Programming > Entertainment

I just changed a bit of wording regarding Seven's running of Australian content: I wouldn't exactly call Good as Gold and Celebrity Survivor "popular", given their ratings and subjective viewer response. Cyril Washbrook 11:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lack of High Definition Programming

Rather than jump in and be accused of vandalising the page, I would like to see a section on 7's lack of high definition programming on its digital services. Currently High Definition is digital television broadcast at the resolution of either 720p (720 'lines' progressively scanned), or 1080i (1080 lines interlaced), with 1080p as a future broadcasting standard but currently available via the new high definition players such as HD-DVD.

Whilst 9 and 10 use 1080i and ABC occasionally use 720p, Channel 7 currently broadcasts a 576p signal on channel 70, and claims this to be high definition, which it is not. In fact when broadcasting material such as film, it is no improvement on standard definition (576i).

There are numerous Wiki and other links to verify this, but thought I'd get comments before I go ahead. User: MichaelGG

In Australia, 576p is considered High Definition. (I'm not saying anything about the quality of Seven's digital services, it's just that Seven is broadcasting in 'high definition'.) Tntnnbltn 06:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logo plagiarism?

As you can see at this Colombian blog post, which includes a 1991 recording of the defunct newscast Noticiero de las Siete (it ceased at late 1990s or early 2000s), its logo is the same than the Seven Network's logo since 2003... I don't know it it's plagiarism or not, but I leave this comment to let you know. --Julián Ortega - drop me a message 16:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Seven Network schedule

Template:Seven Network schedule has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --Tntnnbltn 15:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Splitting Channel Seven / Seven Network

Why have these articles been split? What is the difference between the two? Is the new Seven Network article going to replace Seven Network Limited? Tntnnbltn 15:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Do we really need all of:

I think they are all technically distinct things, but I'm not sure if it's useful to have four separate articles (plus each station as listed somewhere above). Which one is the ASX-listed entity SEV? Three of them appear in Category:Companies listed on the Australian Stock Exchange at the moment.--Scott Davis Talk 15:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

(Seven Network Limited is the ASX listed company.) --Tntnnbltn 16:09, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Video Program Guide

The VPG is basically a stop-gap measure in place of full 7-day program guide information; I think the assertion that it is a seperate channel is misleading. Seeing as it is effectively a datacast (akin to Digital 44) I suggest that the 'free to air channels ' section be removed/altered seeing as the Seven Guide is outside of most viewer's uses. timgraham 07:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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