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[edit] Page move

Can this page please be renamed from "Structured_Wiki" to "Structured_wiki"? Ward prefers that "wiki" is written in lower case. I do not know how to rename pages in Mediawiki. -- PeterThoeny 01:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, found out how to rename... -- PeterThoeny 06:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Cathedral and the Bazaar

I changed the links: cathedral and bazaar in the table to both point to the article that explains how Structured wiki uses the terms: The Cathedral and the Bazaar. Directing readers to the regular cathedral and bazaar articles was less informative than it could have been, by not explaining the specific analogy alluded to. --Teratornis 23:04, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Structured wiki vs. semantic wiki

Is there a difference between structured wiki and semantic wiki, or are these designations interchangeble? --Andrewok 18:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

They are actually quite different. Semantic wikis basically try to make sense of content with context around linking (within the wiki and external); whereas structured wikis try to organize content within the wiki with a database approach. -- User:PeterThoeny - 02:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Here are some quotes from the respective articles that seem to muddy the distinction, at least from a user perspective:
  • Structured wiki - Structured wikis provide database-like manipulation of fields stored on pages, and usually offer an extraction and presentation language or markup with functionality somewhat similar to SQL.
  • Semantic wiki - If the wiki exports all this data in RDF or a similar format, it can then be queried in ways a database might - so that an external user or site could, for instance, submit a query to get a list of all fruits that are red and can be baked in a pie.
These two excerpts make it sound as if the two wikis represent two different coding approaches to achieve similar results from the user's point of view. The structured wiki uses an off-the-shelf database management system to represent structured data, whereas the semantic wiki represents the structured data with a machine-parseable formal language, with the database-y parts smeared out across the markup of many pages. Perhaps that oversimplifies things, but it's hard to tell by reading the two articles. The respective articles should elaborate more on the differences between the two types of wikis, not just in terms of how programmers code them, but also on the functional implications of those differences. What can a structured wiki do that a semantic wiki cannot do, and vice versa? What kinds of tasks are appreciably easier in one than in the other? Examples would help here. Someone who has sufficient experience with both types of wikis should write a section explaining how they really differ. --Teratornis 17:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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