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Last time I checked, the Soviets were on the "Allied" team. Header ideas?

The article was written with a WWII-only slant, but neither Soviet example was designed while they were Allies. Needs a little refactoring. Michael Z. 2006-11-12 05:56 Z

I changed the slant of the article, you were quite right, should the KV2 be added as a Russian Super-hreavy? Simon

Does it qualify? At 52 tonnes it was significantly heavier than the KV-1 heavy tank, but that's still 5 tonnes less than the German Tiger of 1942. It was really meant as more of an infantry support gun than a general-purpose tank. Michael Z. 2006-12-05 00:06 Z

-I suppose not, I suggested it merley as i have seen it mentioned as such elsewhere. Simon

I'm not sure. I think it is the heaviest Soviet production tank ever, and it was 10 tonnes heavier than the normal heavy tank of the time. It's just hard to call it a super-heavy when Soviet tanks tended to be lighter than other countries' tanks. Maybe it bears mentioning it here. If you can cite a good source that calls it a super-heavy, then I think it belongs. Michael Z. 2006-12-05 17:54 Z

I think the article made the judgment based mainly on the huge 152mm gun; so I'll leave it. Simon

Heaviest soviet tank

The heaviest soviet tank was experimental IS-7 with it`s 68 tonnes. Weight of King-Tiger, but much tougher than Maus.

[edit] "Grotte tank"?

Is there any evidence to back that up? It's uncited info at the moment. It seems suspiciously like a chatroom myth, and a quick google doesn't really reveal anything.

"In 1930, the OKMO in Leningrad began design studies of a heavy tank. Barykov divided the staff into two teams, one headed by the German engineer Grotte, and the other by N. Tsiets. The Grotte design, called TG-5 or T-42, was reputedly a 100-ton tank armed with a 107mm gun and having four subturrets, using pneumatic servo-mechanisms for engine control, and a pneumatic suspension, but it is doubtful whether the prototype was completed." —Zaloga (1984:85)
On p 80, Zaloga also mentions Grotte's TG-1 (Tank Grotte-1, army designation T-22) and TG-3 (T-29). Michael Z. 2007-02-16 21:55 Z

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