Talk:Tagalog loanwords
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[edit] Mutually intelligible?
Although Spanish and Tagalog are entirely different languages, they have become somewhat mutually intelligible, albeit with much difficulty on the Spanish-speakers' side.
Ridiculous. They are not mutually intelligible at all. I speak Tagalog at home and Spanish in school are they are most definitely not mutually intelligible in the slightest. They are from completely different language groups their syntax and verb systems are completely different—Spanish is a nominative-accusative language and Tagalog is ergative. Also, the claim that 40% of conversational Tagalog uses Spanish loanwords is questionable. It really depends on dialect, e.g. urban people tend to use more Spanish words and rural peoples use more classical ones. Where are the sources of this information?
[edit] Portugese
Italian, French, German. There should be none or it should be said that the words came via English and Spanish. e.g. Pizza from English which in turn came from Italian. --Jondel 07:29, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
- Removed.--Jondel 00:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- The presence of so-called 'Portuguese loanwords' in the Tagalog language, such as linggo, bandila, kapitan, among others, are confirmed by their presence and cognates on Malay and other Borneic and Indonesian dialects. According to Salazar, Z., in his book The Malayan Connection, before the Spaniards came to the Philippines, Malay and the Philippine dialects has had the words 'bandila' (Portuguese, bandeira), Linggo (Portuguese, domingo), and Kapitan (Portuguese, capitan), thereby confirming these words as coming from Portuguese provenance. :) --User:Matthewprc 12:22, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Wikidictionary
There is a dictionary for filipino, maybe we should work on it.--Jondel 06:28, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Please contribute to tl.wiktionary.org--Jondel 04:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Malay loanwords?
Is this really valid? Because tagalog and malaysian and fairly related to each other linguistically, meaning that they might have only similar words because they evolved from a common ancestor, not from word loaning.
I agree, even the syntax is fairly close. I believe the similarities did not come from borrowing but from evolution from a common older language.
- Hmm, like latin and Spanish or Italian ; or Old German and English etc. I will try to work on this. Good point!--Jondel 12:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Redefine as Cognates Shared with Malaysian/Malay
Is everyone agreeable to this?--Jondel 12:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
- Done--Jondel 10:46, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
