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maybe someone should highlight the japanese and american verision like info on name changes and cuts. Dangerous-Boy 02:49, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC) (unsigned)

I moved some content concerning this from Tekkaman: The Space Knight. - Vague | Rant 13:25, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 There was nothing wrong with the boxart original picture 2 pics in the characters section 3 Balzac's and Ringo's power armors 4 Teknoman or Tekkaman Blade 5 going to change teknoman to tekkaman blade 6 Objection Due to Copyright Laws 7 English Version Note 7.1 Made a few major edits

[edit] There was nothing wrong with the boxart original picture

Plus this is for Tekkaman Blade, not Teknoman.

[edit] pics in the characters section

having a little trouble spacing the pics correctly--Dangerous-Boy

[edit] Balzac's and Ringo's power armors

The Armor Stats graph shows statistics for the Power Armors that Balzac and Ringo pilot at one point in the series, but absolutely no mention is made of them, or how they came to be (the Earth Federation's analysis of a willing Takaya's Tekkaman form allowed them to develop mechanical suits mimicking a true Tekkaman and armed with energy weapons). Pics would be great too. Character profiles for Balzac and Ringo also needed. TKarrde 17:51, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

If you write the profiles, I'll look for pics. --Dangerous-Boy 21:45, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

If I may, my understanding of the Sol-Tekkaman units (the powered armours Balzak and Ringo pilot through to the end of the series) are as follows: Through observational data collected on D-Boy's sorties, Chief Freeman developes prototype anti-Radam powered suits based on Tekkaman. While shadowing Freeman through the base (pulling off some impressive solid-snake action in the process...) Balzac stumbles uppon the prototypes, and procedes to collect evidence. Freeman confronts him, and provides Balzac with a complete record of the observational data, and the blueprints for his prototype, which Balzak takes with him as he leaves the Space Nights at the end of that eppisode. The armour's power plant is designed by Dr. Marlo, a longtime friend of Balzac, incorperating Phemnium to immitate the combustive reaction of the voltekka attack.

[edit] Teknoman or Tekkaman Blade

Should this article be based on Tekkaman Blade or Teknoman when stating names, techniques, setting..etc? Any opinions?--Dangerous-Boy 01:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Given that Teknoman is cut off after two seasons and Tekkaman is the full version (not to mention that Teknoman is a totally butchered version of the original series with entire plot elements left out), I'd say base it all on Tekkaman Blade and have 'Teknoman' redirect to it. TKarrde 07:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree but this one dude with no user name has been making it based on Teknoman as you can see. most of english changes are already mentioned. --Dangerous-Boy 08:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Recommend creating a new page (redirect Tekkaman Blade to it) with all original Japanese names and info (like how Rebin was a guy, not a girl like in Teknoman - one of the many changes made to make Teknoman more 'acceptable' to mainstream America) and having a mention of the US/UK/Australian Teknoman linked to this page. That'd be a lotta work, though. TKarrde 09:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I believe that using the original names (D-Boy (Takaya), Miyuki, Shinya, Aki, Noal, etc...) works much better, as some said before, "Teknoman" (As much as I hate that name) is a butchered version of the original. It's like using the 4Kids renaming as the encyclopedia references. So instead of "Slade (a.k.a Aiba Takaya)", it should be the other way around with more emphasis on the original names.

Definitely need to change things here. Teknoman may well have been the only exposure to the Tekkaman franchise many Americans/British/Australians may have had, but that doesn't make it more prominent to the series as a whole than the original Tekkaman Blade. The fact that you can type in "Tekkaman Blade" and get "Teknoman" as the page itself seems wrong.

For those not in the know, here is a small list of some of the changes made when Tekkaman Blade was ported to English under the moniker "Teknoman":

• Most character and other names changed
• Series cut off after season two, and many scenes and episodes re-ordered
• Dialogue GREATLY mangled to make it more acceptable for Saturday morning cartoon slots
• One character's entire gender was changed (Rebin aka Maggie MacPherson) because he had a crush on the main character

Am I missing anything here? Basically, Teknoman doesn't hold a candle to even the WORST subtitling job of Tekkaman Blade II. Page definitely needs a rewrite with Tekkaman Blade as the featured subject, and Teknoman a footnote at the bottom of the page, or if it absolutely must be done a separate page can be written for Teknoman. TKarrde 14:38, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I think Teknoman should be mentioned a tiny bit in the beginning and at the of the page. Mostly in the trivia section or maybe a section called Changes for the international versions. There's no need for a seperate page. It would be a waste of space and people would get confused. The tables that are made for name changes and episodes gives a good enough comparison.--Dangerous-Boy 09:19, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Redirecting a search for Tekkaman Blade to Teknoman is something like redirecting a Macross search to Robotech... would that be an accurate analogy? But even then... a great deal of the information in this article doesn't even apply to anything other than the specific american cut of Teknoman. Taking into consideration the widly varying differences between Tekkaman Blade and Teknoman, the abovementioned edits in addition to the calculated omission of some supporting characters (Marlo, and that scientist friend of the Chief, for example.), and the inherant insalvagability of this article (some attempts on my part to change names and details to accurately reflect the japanese orrigional seem to be reversed within a matter of days...) lead me to support the 'Create a Tekkaman Blade article' argument...

If you guys starting reverting stuff to tekkaman blade, I'll help make sure it stays focused on Tekkaman blade. Robotech was a huge series mashing together 3 separate series. Teknoman and Tekkaman blade are just series unlike robotech's 3 series. Take a look at the Ronin Warriors page. It pretty much been decided to focus on ronin warriors with the translation mixed. The page doesn't seem to suffer from too many problems. I keep this article on watched, I have no problems helping make sure it stays toward tekkaman blade. And we've already discussed it on the talk page, so that 58.xxx.xx. user should know what's up. --Dangerous-Boy 07:37, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I think it is a good I idea to split the article.--Dangerous-Boy 19:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] going to change teknoman to tekkaman blade

any support or objections?--Dangerous-Boy 03:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Objection Due to Copyright Laws

While I agee that Teknoman is better suited as it's original title Tekkaman Blade, AnimeWorks now owns the distribution licensing rights to the series which include distribution under a chosen title. Since they close Teknoman instead of keeping with the original name, the series is now listed as such. This falls in the same situation with Bandai Entertaiment's Gundam series.--Neovu79 22:10, 10 June 2006 (EST)

Actually, they are distributing both. First, they are distributing the dubbed version as Teknoman since it is already dubbed. Later on they will be release special edition tekkaman blade dvd sets. [1]. The discussion to keep the article as tekkaman blade was done long ago.--Dangerous-Boy 06:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of how any American/UK/Aussie companies decide to market the series, the fact remains that the series in its original form is called Tekkaman Blade. Teknoman is used to refer to the heavily edited (HEAVILY) version that was shown on UPN Saturday mornings in the USA around 1994 or so, as well as the slightly less heavily edited versions shown in the UK and Australia. Where the original series is concerned, Tekkaman Blade should be used. teh TK 18:16, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

That was UPN. UPN no longer own the rights to the series, AnimeWorks does. The DVD is not edited and all 49 episodes have been restored. Unless anime works notes differently, it is known as Teknoman. All other arguments can be directed to AnimeWorks.Neovu79 10:51, 11 June 2006 (EST)

P.S., marketing is one thing, owning the rights to a series is another. Changing the name is a violation of Wikipedia's naming rights policy. Another reversion will be reported.

But English Wikipedia is worldwide, not limitted to some region. Choose licensed name over produce name made so little sense where the series not licensed (like where I'm living).L-Zwei 13:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Just because is has not been released over in your area doesn't mean it has not been licensed for release in your area. But fine, if you guys want to keep it this way, you can. Though a claim has been made with Wikipedia. It's up to them whether to change it back to Teknoman or not.

[edit] English Version Note

Just two quick things.
First, added 'Blade' as one of his names in the english version. Recently picked up the english dub dvd (as in, Teknoman), and for some reason, even though I'd always remembered him as being called Slade, in this version, he's always called Blade. I guess there's more than one butchered english version. (Seems silly to me, but just made the edit to make it as accurate as possible) Secondly, on the issue of Teknoman vs Tekkaman Blade... Even on the english dub dvd, even though they keep referring to him as 'Teknoman', they still display the logo in the opening theme with "Tekkaman Blade".
That is, even the english (teknoman) dvd version shows the title as "Tekkaman Blade" when you watch the opening. Bladestorm 16:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Yup, Slade was the american dub's name for the protagonist. You didn't need to change dialogue pacing that way.--KefkaTheClown 03:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Uh, sorry, but I don't entirely understand what you mean... I remember it being Slade, but "Blade" is the current english name, as of the most recent published english-language material. (ie. the dvd release) Since they call him Blade in the current english version, I added Blade as an english name. To omit it would have made it inherently inaccurate... Or am I misunderstanding what you mean? :) Bladestorm

[edit] Made a few major edits

Yup, there are 2 english versions, one is a more tight edit, one is more relaxed. In the tight edit, he is called Slade, in the Europe and australia edit he is called Blade. Does that clear it up?
Added profiles for the space knights, giving pictures of ringo in his sol tekkaman armour. Dangerous boy has also done this, making edits on my mistakes and adding his own. Thnaks! more coming son, such as Balzac and Cobalt and so on. Made a page on Tekno-Crystal MihirT 21:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Sign you name on the talk pages.--D-Boy 18:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)