User talk:Thanatosimii

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Well, I said I'd be back, however I'm currently having too much fun with God to be here on any kind of regular basis. Wikipedia is indeed a fine project, and I'm glad I spent some time here, and I don't expect to be going for good, but I expect a drastically reduced presence.

January 2006 - September 2006
September 2006 - December 2006

Contents 1 Re: Email address? 2 Ahmose I Mummy Head for FA? 3 Back To Jerusalem 4 Personal Ancient Egyptian bibliography 5 Adding Hieroglyphs 6 Can I get your reply 7 Re: Amenhotep I 8 You helped choose Peloponnesian War as this week's WP:ACID winner 9 Babylon 10 Ramesses IV 11 Thutmose IV 12 FF WikiProject 13 FAC Maximus the Confessor 14 "Rameseses" or "Ramesses" or "Rameses"? 15 Touregypt website

[edit] Re: Email address?

Thanatosimii, do you have an email address? Contact me thru the "E-mail this user" option on my home page; there is something I need your help with, & I'd like to discuss it offline. -- llywrch 01:28, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I received your email. I sent you a response which I hope demystifies everything. -- llywrch 01:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ahmose I Mummy Head for FA?

Any chance the chosen image of the mummy head could be replaced by that of Ahmose's shawabti for the FA submission? It just seems a particularly gruesome thing to be greeted with on the front page of Wikipedia. (For a similar reason I have not added the mummy head of Tao II to the pharaoh infobox either).

Also, given what I am planning on adding to the article about the mummy -- essentially contesting that it may not be Ahmose -- the shawabti at least is probably a better likeness.

Cheers! Captmondo 01:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Got your reply, and I understand the situation. I have updated the section on the mummy based on the Forbes' piece, which casts some doubt that the mummy is who it is said to be. Ironic that the purported mummy of Ahmose I now rests in the same place as the equally dubious mummy of Ramesses I (that argument pretty much nailed down to my mind in the most recent issue of KMT).

So where do we stand on the Thutmose III article? You have beefed things up considerably in terms of overall content, and I have hammered down the last of the needed citations/references, and been able to source a few more pics. (Which reminds me, I have made an effort to clean things up and source some other potential pics for the article, which can be found at Wikimedia Commons at: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Thutmosis_III). I would like to further expand the section on the tomb, mention the "botanical garden" reliefs at Karnak in terms of art from his time, and am looking into coming up with a map of Karnak highlighting the sections that he established. I still think it would be a good idea to go into the co-regenecy with his successor, but other than that I think this article is coming together nicely, and Good Article/Feature Article submission is not far off.

Cheers! Captmondo 11:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

The new biography you mention certainly sounds interesting, though too rich for me to readily add to my personal library anytime soon. I also note that the professor who wrote this does have a Web page and his email address is mentioned on it -- interested in giving him a ping to look over what has been done on that article and make suggestions?

I have also decided to pull in my horns a bit when it comes to coming up with an SVG version of Karnak -- once I delved into it I realized that it is a huge project. I've done a lot of technical illustrations, but doing this right would probably take a solid month's work. Instead I am working on a top-down view of the Thutmose III's tomb layout. Ultimately derived from the online Theban project, but in the end it is it not the only source and consequently should qualify under GDFL. No timeline on when I will get that done, but beforehand month's end at the outside.

Business keeps me traveling, and it turns out that the Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum resides in San Jose, which is where I will be early next month. I won't go into my opinions on the validity of the Rosicrucian belief system here, but suffice to say that their artifact collection seems substantial, and I will bring camera in hand.

I also like your idea about posting what reference works each of us has to draw upon, though I can only see that happening on an individual's user page. I have never seen an equivalent page for a project on Wikipedia, but perhaps that's because no-one has asked.

Cheers! Captmondo 17:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Back To Jerusalem

Thanks for your edits to this article/stub. It looks much better than when I first happened on it, and the references help greatly. --Pastordavid 17:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal Ancient Egyptian bibliography

I seem to remember that you asked for individuals from the Ancient Egyptian group on Wikipedia to list their personal bibliographies -- in other words, what they had in their own personal library and what they have access to. I've finished my own list, which can be seen here. I also have the past few year's editions of KMT. I also have a scanner. ;-) Cheers! Captmondo 03:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adding Hieroglyphs

Hi Thanatosimii

I sayed that I would drop a a line on you discussion-page here in the en-wp. Well: I've tried the chat and the mailing-list, but didn't really get any usefull answers (or similar), maybe I just tried in the wrong moment... anyway. So I tried to find out, how the piece of software works etc. and I was successful (It's very simple, but a developer has to do that...). I think I/we probably would get some usefull feedback, if we already had some Hieroglyphs and their corresponding "Gardiner-Name". Do you have some useful images, which should be added? greetings--Kajk 15:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I found the developer who actually develped and (as far as I know) also maintaince the extension: fr:Utilisateur:Aoineko greetings--Kajk 16:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can I get your reply

You like Wikipedia to be with images and not dull and boring. Images related to the pages and articles. You would've have removed as you did with other edits I made that you didnt agree upon. So please respond, so this person understands that you agree. Ararat arev 20:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you also notice that Dbachmann reverted his wrong "copyvio" that I had got approval from User:Jkelly the admin who handles copyright images. He removed it and put the "copyvio" message. And Dbachmann later explained to him that was wrong and the tag is ok. Ararat arev 20:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Let the guy have his say in this before changing it. Sheesh. Ararat arev 19:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Also why dont you yourself compare the 2 pages and see for yourself what I mean. Im just giving you good advice. If you want take it. Ararat arev 19:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

If you dont want to make the pages look good, its actually not up to you. Ararat arev 19:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know i reported Ararat for his disruptive edits i asked him nicely a thousand times it seems if he gets blocked he calms down. For the 3RR. Nareklm 20:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah exactly what i was thinking, i think its going to be 48 hours this time i also warned him about the 3RR he removed my message. Hopefully next time he will be more cautious with his edits. Nareklm 20:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

He has been blocked!! Hooray! lol :-) Nareklm 22:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Amenhotep I

Thanks for letting me know about the peer review request for this article. Will take a look at it and let you know what holes I find (if any). Will add them to the article's discussion page.

Out of the blue I have the opportunity to make a business trip to New York City at the end of the month. Don't know how much spare time I will have to visit other places while there, but am hoping to make it to the Metropolitan Museum of Art and possibly the Brooklyn Museum. Will bring camera in hand and take pics, if allowed.

One thing that may possibly interest you: a photogallery of the recent pics I took of the Egyptian Gallery at the Royal Ontario Museum [1]. Not on par with the museum in Berlin (or those in New York) but there may be something of use to you there.

Cheers! Captmondo 22:46, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

In my University days in the mid-1990's, we followed the kind of academic citations you mentioned with the added op cit for footnotes on occasions. But its just a matter of taste, frankly. Nothing important here really on the references/footnotes. Leoboudv 00:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You helped choose Peloponnesian War as this week's WP:ACID winner

Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive. This week Peloponnesian War was selected to be improved to featured article status. Hope you can help.

AzaBot 12:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Babylon

Hi, two sources on Babylon's etymology

David G. Burke "Babel, Tower of" The Oxford Guide to People and Places of the Bible. Ed. Bruce M. Metzger and Michael D. Coogan. Oxford University Press, 2001. Oxford Reference Online. Oxford University Press.

The cuneiform digital library initative wiki on Babylon [2].

Of course, both notes that Bab-ilu (gate of god) might not be the original etymology. Probably not a strong enough statement for being called a reliable source.

I won't be reverting to the fake etymology version unless I find better sources. The only thing which is clearly wrong right now is the "translating Sumerian". Otherwise the present form of the article is fine, since it does not state that Bab-ilu is the etymology of Babylon (contrary to the article on the Tower of Babel).

I am having a similar discussion/argument with Codex Sinaiticus on the Tower of Babel Talk page, and I feel like I am starting to be a dick. On top of that this is not very important, because it is certain that Babylonians (at least Neo-Babylonians) understood Babilu as meaning gate of gods.

Thanks

USferdinand 20:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ramesses IV

Dear Thomas, Hope I am not contacting you at a bad time. You know I have always treated you with the greatest of respect. Captmondo's recent pictures look good indeed. Anyhow, I am contacting you about Ramesses IV. I have made many recent additions to this pharaoh under my 24.87 account with the usual scholarly footnotes. It helps that I have some University training here since many people make additions but never cite the specific sources for their claims. ie: Its unverifiable and can be a problem on Wikipedia. Do you know who created the neat Pharaoh info-boxes for the other New Kingdom kings? No such pharaoh infobox exists for Ramesses IV but if there was any 20th dynasty king who deserved such a 'special treatment', it might be this king because of his numerous projects. Ramesses IV may have died after a reign of only 6.5 years but he left behind such a wealth of material and information that AJ Peden managed to print a biography on this ruler in 1994 which is unusual for the post-Ramesses III New Kingdom kings. Leoboudv 10:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply and for the creation of the pharaoh info box on Ramesses IV by Markh. Its a good start. Leoboudv 01:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Thanks for the addition. Leoboudv 08:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thutmose IV

The kind of sources I have on Thutmose IV are the standard ones by Nicolas Grimal, the Oxford History on Ancient Egypt plus Bryan's biography which is fundamental for understanding this king's reign. There hasn't been any major changes in interpretation on this king since Bryan's 1991 book came out. Except for Peter Clayton's Chronology of the Egyptian Pharaohs, pretty much all scholars including J. Von Beckerath's Chronologie of the Egyptian Pharaohs give him a 10 year reign--by rounding up Josephus' figures of 9 Yrs & 8 Months to 10 yrs. (I don't know if Clayton is a scholar or a writer; I have not seen him write any articles in major periodicals) I can only tell you that many scholars view Thutmose's Dream Stela as pure propaganda to cover up the fact that he likely murdered his elder brother and presumptive heir to Amenhotep II to take the throne. This is Zahi Hawass' take on the document from a video program on Ancient Egypt I once saw in the late 1990's and the stela does smack heavily of propaganda--if Thutmose IV was the legitimate successor, he needn't have created such a document to legitimise his unexpected rise to power. Basically, those are my sources with Bryan being the best of the best because her book concentrates on this king's reign unlike the other writers I quoted who just browse by it before proceeding towards Amenhotep III's longer 38 year reign. Regards, Leoboudv 09:43, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FF WikiProject

Hi; looking for something to do? I might have an idea. Do you have any official strategy guides, by any chance? — Deckiller 02:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

We're trying to attribute a lot of the game material (such as explanations of how the battle systems work, or the descriptions of notable monsters/races/magic types) to a reliable, published source - in this case, it's the official strategy guides. Monsters of Final Fantasy is the first to start this system, and it's about halfway done. But if you can help finish sourcing that with that you have and perhaps start with other articles (Final Fantasy character classes is using mostly manuals packaged with the games right now, which is not as good), that would be greatly appreciated! This may sound vague right now, because we're still trying to find our way, but whatever you can source with those strategy guides is great. — Deckiller 14:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks; any help is appreciated. — Deckiller 16:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAC Maximus the Confessor

I have responded to your request for a theology section for FAC Maximus. Please check the article and see if this now meets the FA criteria. (FYI, I am still trying to think of a way to include some more info on the Maronites). Thanks for your helpful comments, I think they have made for a better article. -- Pastordavid 18:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I have replied on the article FAC page -- and thanks, your comments have been very helpful, and I think the article is looking better with each change. -- Pastordavid 21:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your support and comments on the FAC for Maximus the Confessor. The discussion has closed, and the article has been promoted to Featured Article status. I think the article was greatly improved through the comments and suggestions offered in the nomination process, and was happy to see the process work so well. Again, thanks. -- Pastordavid 20:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Rameseses" or "Ramesses" or "Rameses"?

I don't know if you are aware of this, but there is currently a vote over on this page trying to achieve a consensus on which spelling of the name should be used for this line of pharaohs. Just thought that someone who is a better interpreter of hieroglyphics than I am ought to lend their weight and vote accordingly. Cheers! Captmondo 12:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Dear Thomas, In case you're wondering, I made a correction on your introduction page on the spelling of Egypt. BTW, I sent a message directly to "you know who" here and mentioned your site and Captmondo's site.[3] I'm not sure Betacommand cares about our work on Egyptology though. He seems very closeminded and unreasonable--the very antithesis of Wikipedia. Regards, Fabian Leoboudv 23:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Touregypt website

The website was added to the block list on March 16 for what was considered cross wikispam. That means while it wasn't spammed in English Wikipedia, the spam occured on many wiki's in specific languages. I do not know which Wiki's were affected, but asking User:Eagle 101 could find out some clues. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 00:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I put the entire domain on the whitelist. However, as I mentioned on the whitelist page, I have a few suggestions for you and others.

1. The site should work, if not, tell me so I can fix it
2. Try and use other websites that could convey the same information
3. The presence of ads doesn't bother most of us, but some will still feel that Tour Egypt isn't the best authority to use on Wikipedia, since they are mostly a commercial venture
4. The rules on external links still aplly.

I hope this helps. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 01:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)