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Contents 1 "Sicilians were spawned by niggers" 2 Plot summary sections 3 Wikipedia problem? 4 Quentin Tarantino "cameo" 5 Cleanup 6 Contradiction in the script section 7 Christopher Walken as a Sicilian?

[edit] "Sicilians were spawned by niggers"

What do you guys think? I just added the section, and I think I did a pretty good job with it. Give me some feedback! EliasAlucard|Talk 16:08, 17 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

Should a point be made that it isnt true? It's unfortunate that so many people take the dialogue from that scene in the movie as historical fact when it clearly isnt. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.88.134.38 (talk • contribs) 07:05, 22 February 2006.

Well, Tarantino himself claims it to be true on the True Romance DVD audio commentary track. I've checked up some facts on Wikipedia about the Moors, and there seems to be some validity in this claim made in the movie. EliasAlucard|Talk 00:45, 07 May, 2006 (UTC)

It's somewhat accurate. Slanted, but accurate. You've got to realize, Sicily is an island smack in the middle of the Mediteranean Sea and is of extreme strategic importance. It was constantly being invaded by the Moors, one of the Punic Wars started there, I mean, it was constantly the sight of conflict throughout the Roman Empire and beyond. What that generally means is every time it was conquered, there was a raping/pillaging period and as a result you get an island that's sort of an artificial melting pot. It isn't as simple as described in the movie, that being one major invasion by the Moors changing the whole bloodline, but the bloodline is the result of a long period of vastly different groups of people taking over Sicily and mixing genetic material. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.88.134.38 (talk • contribs) 07:05, 22 February 2006.

It isn't true, the movie gives the false illusion that Sicilians are somehow "black" when its an urban legend. Unsuprising that it is an American film and as such myths like these are snowballed.

Moors is a term applied to the Berber people, these people conquered Spain and also Sicily. Although these people are from part of Africa (Morocco for example), they are not the same colour as the stereotypical African-American; in terms of skin colour a modern day example of these people would be Zinedine Zidane or the Princess of Morocco.. who as you can see, are not black.

In the article on the History of Sicily, it states that "Complex urban settlements becomes increasingly evident from around 1300 BC" on the island.... the Moors were only at the helm in Sicily for around two centuries (from 831 AD till 1071 AD). A relitively small period of time when you consider the entire history of the island.

So to clarify...

Light skinned people from Africa did control Sicily for a short period two centuries, but they didn't "spawn" the people of the island, nor where they Black people in the popular sense of the term, unlike what the film claims. - Deathrocker 20:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot summary sections

Both plot summary sections need a serious pruning - they go into far too much detail. I might get some of it done soon myself, but if anyone else wants to help, please feel free. --Doug (talk) 18:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree, this is insanely long. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.22.90.252 (talk • contribs) 03:54, 10 June 2006.

[edit] Wikipedia problem?

I was going to add wikiquote in the external links, but something happened and half the article disappeared. EliasAlucard|Talk 13:39, 03 Jun, 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. Personally I think we could improve the article by losing three quarters of it, though. ;) Henry^Flower 11:47, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, and that was why I tried to add Wikiquote, so that we could move the quotes in the article to where they belong. EliasAlucard|Talk 04:42, 04 Jun, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quentin Tarantino "cameo"

User:72.72.106.79 has added a piece of "trivia" that I recently removed, namely that Quentin Tarantion makes a cameo in the film as a customer with a prostitute on a monitor in Drexel's den. While the man on the TV does bear some resemblance to QT, the scene is actually from the film The Mack, as is clearly stated in the dialogue. I'm removing this again, unless anyone has any objections. Nscheffey^(T/C) 04:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

Got inspired to tacle this by seeing the masterpiece that is the Ghost Dog article. Great films shouldn't have poor articles. If anyone fancies jumping in there's more than enough things to work on. Chris Cunningham 15:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Finally did some work on the massively overwrought plot section. It's still a bit intense, mind. Chris Cunningham 23:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction in the script section

So how does the original screenplay actually start? It can't originally start in two different ways... Chris Cunningham 10:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christopher Walken as a Sicilian?

What the-- No! That's ridiculous. I'm Sicilian. Most of us are really dark, including me. Christopher Walken is not dark at all...What is up with that? That's offensive. Tarantino needs to find a real Sicilian to play a Sicilian...especially if the role involves stereotyping Sicilians. You could at least get the stereotype right! "Christopher Walken as a Sicilian gangster".....that's ridiculous. He doesn't even slightly resemble a Sicilian! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Callmarcus (talk • contribs) 16:02, 30 November 2006.

You appear to have mistaken this for an actors' guild. In 1994. That's ignoring the fact that Tarantino had no say in the casting anyway, having sold the script. Chris Cunningham 16:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)