Talk:TV Aerial Plug

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Contents 1 Are there any F connector to TV Aerial Plug converters in existence? 2 Move to "TV aerial plug" 3 Miniature Belling-Lee connector? 4 PAL Connector

[edit] Are there any F connector to TV Aerial Plug converters in existence?

Yes, additionally they can be made. However, the only real use is to use a north american TV with European antennae or vice versa, or rarely to connect a Hyperband analogue cable system direct to a supporting TV rather than the decoder box. --Kiand 22:52, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Additionally some installers only use belling lee connectors when they absoloutely have to and use F everywhere else (especially with the advent of digital terrestrial TV) If you need a lead with a F connector on one end and a belling lee the other get some decent coax (which you should be using for your installation anyway) and make one. Plugwash 10:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes Maplin do them. Part Number QP41U. Other permutations of sexes also available from them. --jmb 20:01, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

They are of course useful in the UK. I have a couple that I use with a antenna preamplifier to feed the tuner in my computer away from home. Sure there must be plenty of other uses. --jmb 20:05, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move to "TV aerial plug"

It has been suggested that this page be moved from "TV Aerial Plug" to "TV aerial plug" (the correct Wiki case for subsequent words).

• Support -- This is the standard Wiki style. Atlant 20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
• Support -- Ditto. --Hooperbloob 02:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
• Object -- One could argue that this is not a page about TV aerial plugs in general (in which case the case would indeed be wrong here), but one specifically about the "Belling-Lee connector", which is also known in Britain not just as a "TV aerial plug" but as the "TV Aerial Plug". In other words, "TV Aerial Plug" could be seen as a proper noun (name) here and not a normal nominal phrase, and hence would be correctly capitalized according to Wikipedia sentence case housestyle. However, if you want to rename the article, I would suggest to rename it to either "Belling-Lee TV aerial connector" or "IEC 169-2 TV aerial connector", which are both much less ambiguous in a global context and therefore more appropriate terminology in an encyclopedia entry. Ambiguous colloquialisms such as "TV Aerial Plug" should not determine the title, IMHO. Also note that the wider term "connector" is more fitting than "plug" for an article that describes the entire connector system, consisting of both a plug and a jack. Markus Kuhn 12:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
• Object -- As written above, this is not about TV aerial plugs in general but one specific type which is often just called a TV Aerial Plug. --jmb 19:55, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miniature Belling-Lee connector?

The term "Miniature Belling Lee" added by User:Jmb on 20 August 2006 to the article occurs according to Google all over the Internet only in this article. Are you sure this is the right name for what you want to describe and can you please provide some reference or at least a photo that gives us any idea what you might mean? When was it introduced, who uses it, is there a standard defining it? At least a catalog link to a manufacturer? Markus Kuhn 10:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I have only ever heard them referred to as "miniature Belling Lee" but they could well have another name. They were used in equipment made perhaps in the 1960s as I wrote previously for internal links. I have not been able to find one in any of my junk boxes or I would have taken a photograph. I will have another look around tomorrow. --jmb 19:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe they are also used inside some PMR radio equipment (including STC AF101), I will get some pictures in a few months time. --jmb 09:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PAL Connector

Where is the term "PAL Connector" used? I have never heard it in the UK. --jmb 09:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Never heared it before but it sounds like the kind of thing that would be come up with by someone trying to explain european TV wiring to americans. Plugwash 00:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Google knows only about 535 occurrences of the term "PAL connector" [1], compared to about 35500 occurrences of "IEC 169-2". So it exists, but is rather obscure and certainly technically objectionable (the connector shape has nothing to do with the way color information is encoded). I have no quarrels if we remove it again. Markus Kuhn 11:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)