Talk:ViPNet Technology
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[edit] 31 July 2006
The idea of this article is to share interesting information about an alternative VPN technology. In my opinion it is rather useful to know more about existent solutions in this field.
[edit] copyedit, purpose
I've edited the article for grammar and some phrasing. There's no intenet to change meaning in these edits, but some of the original was not very clear. A review to catch misunderstanding would be well.
This appears to be excluesively a description of a commercial product, embodying no new techniques. If so, it's probably not appropriate for WP, which avoids commercial links and articles. But, if the proprietary protocols mentioned are unusual or noteworthy, perhaps, with some refactoring, this might be an appropriate article topic for WP. Please comment on this point. ww 20:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thank you, Ww!
Thank you very much, Ww! I reviewed all the changes that you made, and I really appreciate your help. The article sounds much better now and some points became much easier for understanding. It is terrific! Now I will try to do my best and describe the uniqueness of the Technology as good as I can. It is very exciting to participate in WP development anyway, so I will contribute to the project by continuing to edit other articles as well.
[edit] ViPNet Routing and Encapsulation Technology description added
I have modified my article by describing the technology of routing and encapsulation. What do you think? Is it comprehensible enough? May be it is too long and hard to understand? May be some pictures should be added to help the understanding? I also wanted to describe the destinguishing technology of Virtual IP addresses that is used only in ViPNet solutions, and ViPNet Key Structure. But first of all I wanted to ask you to evaluate this part. Every opinion is important to me. Thank you very much in advance.
- I've gone ahead and edited the added section as before. There is some wikitext (ie, < ! -- text text text -- >) included where I couldn't make sense of your account. But, I am still uneasy about this article, as it seems to be solely a description of a commercial product. Albeit a more detailed one now. That sort of thing is not suited to WP; there's even an official policy on the point.
- You appear to be closely involved in this product's development, hence very familiar with operational and design details. Were you one o fhte developers? ww 15:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Answer
Hi Ww! No, I am not a developer, indeed. The reason why I am so familiar with the technology is because I have graduated this year (information security faculty in the Russian State University), and my entire Degree Project was dedicated to ViPNet. I have spent almost half a year testing and scrutinizing it. I made a classification of all kinds of attacks on VPN and tested them on the ViPNet network as an example. May be next year some graduating student will continue my work and make a comparison of ViPNet with some other technologies. Now I want to share my knowledge, because when you graduate, you really believe that 5 years of your education is not just waste of time. I wanted to share something that appeared to be interesting to me.
I will continue working on other WP articles. Today I spent too much time improving the one about ViPNet. Hopefully, you will help me out and this project won't just sink into obscurity.
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I am actually a little bit upset now... It seems to me that an article became too stuffed with technical details. May be I should shorten it? May be I should focus on some other topics when describing technology?
- S, 'Too much' time is common. It's called 'Wikiaddiction' in English and one is said to be a 'Wikiholic'. It's a problem. People sometimes take Wikivacations for relief. Silly, but amuses quite a few people. :You're correct that there is considerable technical information here, and that it's perhaps too much. The trick (or one of them) in writing a Wikipedia article is to avoid too much detail, while at the same time giving enough to understand, if not to re-implement, the <whatever is being described>. In addition, it's important to explin just what the <whatever> is important enough to justify an encyclopedia article. Sometimes that's obvious, as in an article about a country (Costa Rico, or Italy), but sometimes it's not so clear (an article about the odd shaped manhole covers in the streets of Marakeesh, Morocco, for instance -- that is if there are any). I think this article needs work on both counts. As it currently stands, the wikitext comments I've left need some work.
- Welcome to the world of business / government work. It's rather different than academic work as I'm sure you've discovered. ww 21:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
