Talk:Warren Cup
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Isn't it at the British Museum in London? That's where I saw it in 2000. Haiduc 05:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Can you give me any more information about the exhibition at the BM? When will it be? Also thanks to whomever wrote more info about this piece...it's amazing.
[edit] Erastes and Eromenos?
The current text describes the active and passive partners as erastes and eromenos respectively. What evidence is there for this? Erastes and eromenos described people in an ongoing relationship. The people depicted may have been in an ongoing relationship, or they may have been casual sexual encounters. I think the article should be amended to reflect this. --rossb 09:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- As I understood it, erastes and eromenos were valid labels, whether the encounter was casual or not.
Neddyseagoon 10:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)neddyseagoon
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- The British Museum site uses the terminology. Nonetheless, your question raises a good point. The use of the terms was generalized to a certain extent (even used politically of the relationship between a citizen and the state - see article on pederasty in ancient Greece) but was it used in prostitution also (against Timarchos, perhaps?) and can we categorize the couples on the cup? I do not know offhand. Haiduc 10:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
rubinia I wrote a paper on this piece, and everything I saw used the terms erastes and eromenos...this is a Roman object but it shows the couples in a Hellenised setting, so even if they are not in a long-term relationship (which is possible, since I was under the impression that the Greeks didn't always go 'all the way' in pederastic relationships), maybe they are just playing at Greek love, if that makes sense?
