User talk:Wikisoul

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[edit] Mark Batson

The article Mark Batson has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. -- Merope 02:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Don't Quit Your Day Job!

I reverted your most recent edit (which reverted the tabled track listing I produced) and herein lies my reasoning: While there are no specific guidelines as to how a track listing should be structured, WikiProject albums recommends a table for albums where there are multiple writers/producers (hip hop albums generally), citing Illmatic as an example. If you look at the highest class hip hop albums, like Illmatic and also Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde, tabled track listings are fairly common as they are usually more readable. I appreciate the amount of work you put into Don't Quit Your Day Job!, especially digitizing all the album credits, and my intent was to help improve upon that by making it even better. My apologies if that came across as vandalizing your work.--NPswimdude500 07:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I do not agree with tables being easier to read and I also think my layout looked better. However, seeing that this is some sort of a standard, I do not wish to go against the majority of the editors. Also, could you explain why you names in credits only should be linked on their first appearance and not everytime. Is this also some sort of an agreed upon standardization? Some names aren't linked because no page exists for them or because no one simply bothered to link them. Removing links for multiple appearances adds a third reason. The readers would have to browse the whole document to find the link they are looking for instead of just looking by the track that they were interested in. These are some of the cons as I see it. I would appreciate your feedback on this. wikisoul 00:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The general linking rule comes from the Manual of Style (links) (also here). It basically says that the same term/phrase should not be linked more than once in a line or a paragraph. There are no specific rules regarding tables, but as I understand it, they qualify as paragraphs (especially when compared to existing lay-outs). Regarding links to pages that haven't been created yet, I think the general idea is that if an article doesn't exist, don't link to it unless it most certainly deserves an article, or you yourself are willing to create that article.--NPswimdude500 01:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't liken a paragraph to a table since the purpose of a table is to find the desired information using a coordinate system, not by reading it from start to finish. Regarding links to pages that haven't been created yet, I wasn't asking you about when to make these links. I was trying to make the point that if a reader goes to the desired cell of the table and doesn't find a link it should be because no link has been created, not because someone removed it because it was already linked elsewhere on the page. This is from the page Manual of Style (links) that you referred me to: "The purpose of internal links is to allow readers to easily and conveniently follow their curiosity or research to other articles. These links should be included where it is most likely that a reader would want to follow them elsewhere — for example, in article introductions, the beginnings of new sections, table cells, and image captions. Generally, where it is likely that a reader may wish to read about another topic, the reader should not have to hunt for a link elsewhere in the page." wikisoul 02:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that paragraph says that links should be included in table cells. And the table cells do have links. Not all of them obviously, for this reason: A link for any single term is excessively repeated in the same article, as in the example of overlinking which follows: "Excessive" is more than once for the same term, in a line or a paragraph, because in this case one or more duplicate links will almost certainly then appear needlessly on the viewer's screen. Several lines down it says this: These guidelines also apply to tables, considered by themselves. And the user does not need to hunt for the link elsewhere in the page, they need only to find the link within the table, which is not a difficult task.--NPswimdude500 02:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Timbaland Presents Shock Value

You're welcome. Thanks for the help on Sebastian's page. I'll create a page about Attitude on the next few days, I need to collect every infos about him first.Feel free to help.--NeptunianDroid 19:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)