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Contents 1 Article naming question for lists 2 Bringing order to Orders 3 Scope of the WikiProject 4 Medals 5 Qualification and Service Badges

[edit] Article naming question for lists

In [[Category:Orders, decorations, and medals of Monaco]], should name of the of the article be...

1. Orders and decorations of Monaco (which is the current name)
2. List of orders and decorations of Monaco (add "List of" prefix)
3. List of orders, decorations, and medals of Monaco (add "List of" prefix, and new, longer ODM name)
4. List of Orders, Decorations, and Medals of Monaco (add "List of" prefix, and new, longer ODM name with CAPS)

Thx — MrDolomite • Talk 20:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

We probably have to discuss this, how we should evolve a common style of presentation for each nation's ODM (templates, articles, etc). In ideal circumstances this list should be a sort of 'contents page', enabling quick and easy access to the articles which have been (ideally) written on each individual medal. For the time being though, what about Orders, decorations, and medals of Monaco? It keeps the corporate naming style and seems to be appropriate for an overview article.

Xdamr^talk 23:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bringing order to Orders

As members of this project are likely aware, the family of Orders of St John is confusing. There is a good deal of chaos in their organization on Wikipedia. I thought I'd bring a proposal here (originally proposed by User:Boven who now seems to be inactive). I'd like to see the articles written and organized thusly:

• Knights Hospitaller(covering the general broad history of the order from its beginnings in the Holy Land to present)
• Alliance of Orders of St John(a description of the structure and purpose of this group)

• Order of Malta(the catholic order with extended history from the beginnings to present)

The Four Main Protestant Orders

• Balley Brandenburg ("Johanniterorden")(Germany)
• Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem(England)
• Johanniterorden I Sverige(Sweden)
• Johanniter Orde in Nederland(Netherlands)

The Four non-German Commanderies of the Bailiwick of Brandenburg

• Swiss Commandery of the Order of St John(Switzerland)
• French Commandery of the Order of St John(France)
• Hungarian Commandery of the Order of St John(Hungary)
• Finnish Commandery of the Order of St John(Finland)

I think that an organization this way would be helpful. We could also add a category such as [[Category:St John Orders]] or something like that to group them all together, as well as a possible template showing their relationships. What say ya'll?--Eva ^bd 19:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

• In an effort to keep the discussion in one place, how about we do all the discussing here.--Eva ^bd 19:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scope of the WikiProject

Just was wondering if non-military awards/prizes like Oscars or Noble prize would also come under this WP? Or this WP is just for military related awards, the idea one gets from the project banner? STTW (talk) 19:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

No they don't. This Project deals with national honours systems, ie awards/decorations for bravery, meritorious service, etc issued by the state to military or civilian personnel. It doesn't really deal with prizes and private awards.

Xdamr^talk 15:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Medals

Are all medals created by nations worthy of a wikipedia article? Or only medals such as the VC. Crested Penguin 09:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, all national medals are notable enough to have their own article here. Of course you can say more about some medals, such as the VC, than you can about others, but ideally all should have an entry.

Xdamr^talk 12:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks Crested Penguin 22:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Qualification and Service Badges

Folks, you are mis-cataloging several US Army and USAAF badges, e.g. "Auxiliary Pilot Badges", etc. Unless I'm very mistaken, this category, "Orders, Decorations, and Medals" is for awards for personal or unit behavior during service. Qualification or service badges, like pilot wings, or jump wings, or other service badges are NOT awards for behavior. They're for being qualified or assigned to certain duty-types. Therefore, these entries should be moved out of the ODM category.Maclir2001 21:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

• Remember, the [[Category:WikiProject Orders, Decorations, and Medals articles]] is an internal category used to help organize and help contributing editors find articles, not one to be used as in index into WP. You are correct, those badges are not an Order, Decoration or Medal under the military definition. We could change the name to ODMB :) Or maybe the WP:ODM#Scope should be slightly modified to be a bit broader. My personal 2c is that if it's on your chest or in your service record, it would fall under the WikiProject. — MrDolomite • Talk 01:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree—I don't see any real problem with them being dealt with here if that is what people want. The Project is the 'Orders, decorations, and medals' WikiProject but, although our main focus, this isn't necessarily all-encompassing.

Xdamr^talk 08:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)