User talk:Xiner/Archive 4

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Contents 1 Kiarostami 2 Assignment 3 Re:Your psot on Cremepuff's talk page about myself 4 Re your questions 5 Kiarostami was promoted! 6 Please don't remove legit comments 7 Your date... 8 Thanks for your effort 9 Article Size 10 Vandalism 11 Edit summaries 12 Tell me this 13 UCFD 14 Thanks 15 Your message 16 thank you 17 RfA? 18 Not being arrested... :) 19 A barnstar... 20 Requests for article updates on the help desk 21 Your RFA 22 Please sign my autograph page 23 Your RfA 24 Capitalised edits on People's Republic of China 25 Userpage, subpage issues 26 Badminton 27 A Medley of Comments 28 Helpme 29 User talk:76.169.88.247 30 Ducking in 31 Category renaming 32 Templates 33 Hithchiker's Guide to the Galaxy 34 DRV 35 Touching base 36 Blank Comments -- Oops! 37 League of Copyeditors 38 Several things... 39 Email 40 Cremepuff 41 Thanks for the suggestion 42 A New Barnstar! 43 Your RfA 44 Help 45 Emptying & deleting categories 46 Is there a template for user warnings about copyvio? 47 Fairuse images 48 A Medley of Comments 49 Date/fix maintenance tags 50 ADMIN 51 Featured Article 52 Congratulations! 53 Congrats 54 Congratulations 55 I wasn't the first! 56 Your new adminship 57 Successful RfA 58 Autograph Book 59 Congradulations! 60 Ahem.... 61 More congratulations 62 RE:Criticism 63 You deserve it!! 64 Congrats! (+ a quick note) 65 User talk:Microperfectcorp 66 Watchlist 67 Congratulations! 68 Mercyhurst College Institute for Intelligence Studies 69 Congratulations! 70 Last one I will make 71 ! 72 Thank you and Congrats :) 73 Re:0-level UCFD 74 Query? 75 User page update 76 A question 77 Question about image 78 Done with userpage 79 A Week in the Woods 80 Your closure of Category:Wikipedians who own cockroaches 81 Speedy deletions 82 blocking 83 Wikiproject Actors and Filmmakers 84 Criticisms and attacks 85 Proposed merge of Dr. Doug Powell into Food Safety Network 86 Thanks 87 What do you think 88 Thanks 89 Re: My userpage 90 In need of advice... 91 Blatantvandal template - not final?

[edit] Kiarostami

Hi Xiner! hope you are fine.

The Cinematic style of Abbas Kiarostami was previously a part of Abbas Kiarostami. So we did not want to make it as comprehensive as we could. It is now 40 kb and it is a separate article so we can even expand it further. I made a summary of it with a size of less than 15 kb and put it back to Kiarostami. I tried to trim it further, but I got strong objection from users. They recover some of my deletions and the size increased to 18-19 kb. I think as long as the whole article is in acceptable size range, we are fine. And honestly the cinematic style section is the most interesting section of the article. In any case if you find some sentences unnecessary, please feel free to delete it. Thanks. Sangak 07:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I understand your point. It would be good if you could help us with it. As I said I once trimed it further and I got objections from other for instance see [1] and [2]. I really cann't do anything as there is no consensus between reviewers. Please feel free to make it shorter. Thanks. Sangak 14:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Apart from these, I think the article does not violate FA standards. And if I am not mistaken, a FA article is not considered a closed project and there are always room for improvement (particularly for Kiarostami who is still alive). Take care. Sangak 14:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Xiner! I would like to keep every one happy as much as I can. Sangak 14:36, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assignment

Hello, Xiner! Hope you're doing fine! When is the next assignment coming out? Thanks! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Xiner. I gave up on him a couple hours ago. I should have kept cool; I didn't realize how difficult these situations could be. It's a good learning experience, though. Didn't mean to bother you with my persistant assignment messages.

I've seen you a TON at the help desk! You should be proud of yourself for all of the help that you have given other users! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

What article did I need to delete? Or is this a sorta assignment? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Darn it! Sorry to bring you into this whole Spawn Man mess. It's all my fault!! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Aye. I'm still sorry, though. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Your psot on Cremepuff's talk page about myself

Hmm, I'm curious about how you take her side on the Jimbo Wales impersonation fiasco. The only reason admins are in fact involved is because I asked them to be as Cremepuff called me a pervert, smelly & insignifcant & spammed other users to try & gang up on me. I can provide you with links if you wish to confirm my claims (wouldn't want to have my "jibes" fall on your "deaf ears"). The only jibes I made towards the user was saying that her feelings were easily hurt & that she didn't get my intentions. I have not done anything liek this in regard to impersonation before, (although you say I have like you actually know me or something, which you don't). I feel angered that you come in halfway through a situation & assume you know what's been going on, whilst your apprentice has been doing most of the incivilty, such as spamming others, name calling, threatening, etc. I'd appreciate if you checked your facts before taking a side, or if you can't, then don't take one at all. Remember there are real people on the other side, and for you to just assume I'm wrong, then you are mistaken... Spawn Man 02:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, & I said it was a trivial argument to start with (along with admins), but your friend here continued it. Not me... Spawn Man 02:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I may suck, but I won't bite. Xiner (talk, email) 02:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Ew... If I didn't get what you're trying to say, that phrase would sound preeetty gross lol. :) I just wanted you to know that I'm not the one who started it. It wasn't me who placed the original post on my talk page. I kept my cool throughout. You should cease checking the splinter in my eye, lest you miss the plank in Cremepuff's... Just casue I have a long history of arguments, doesn't mean I always start them all.... Spawn Man 02:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Haha, I appreciate your sense of humor. That's a good start. Look, I'd have had a higher opinion of you if you didn't, say, insist on referring Cremepuff as a girl. Name-calling, with all due respect, is childish. I'm sure you can understand that. Xiner (talk, email) 02:20, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I thought she is a girl? As in female? Sorry, if I'm mistaken, but I get these things mixed up usually - I thought Sango123 was a boy up until about 6 months ago lol. And that was with reading her user page lol.... I haven't name called, obviously the "girl" thing was a misunderstanding on my part. I dont think I recall reading Cremepuff was a boy anywhere lol... *Sheepish laughter*... Spawn Man 02:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if you wanted me to keep out of this, Xiner, I just can't help it.

Look here, first seven words, can't miss it. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:31, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh. I'm sorry if you thought I was name calling. Truly a mistake lol. Quite funny if you think about it, but not intentional. Hope this sorts a couple of issues out lol. :) Spawn Man 02:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I think we've all said what we need to say. Let's call an end to this discussion, shall we? Xiner (talk, email) 02:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Aye. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeppo. I've already said that I have no hard feelings towards Cremepuff... All these extra people getting involved just prolonged the argument's proccess... Thanks, Spawn Man 02:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re your questions

Hi Xiner! I often warn or notify users when I revert inappropriate edits but not always, for example in cases where some time has passed after the reverted edit. Many of the unhelpful edits on Wikipedia come from shared computers/IP addresses (in schools, for example) and a message left on such an IP's talk page hours after the reverted edit was made is somewhat likely to be received by someone else than the intended person. I discuss articles on talk pages when appropriate, but not as often as some others as I rarely get into content disputes. As for adminship, I think I need a couple of weeks to look into a few things before being comfortable with an RfA. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 09:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kiarostami was promoted!

Dear User:Xiner

I need to thank you for your kind assistance on this article. The article would not come to FA status without your helps. Thanks and All the best. Sangak ^Talk 11:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't remove legit comments

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent contribution removed content from Wikipedia:Help desk. Please be more careful when editing articles and do not remove content from Wikipedia without a good reason, which should be specified in the edit summary. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. I realize that you are a good editor, so please don't take any offense from this message. Thank you.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 03:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I was undoing an obviously errant edit on the help desk, and didn't know it might overwrite edits like the one you were obviously writing at the same moment. So sorry. I'd say this use of templates is a bit excessive though, as anyone familiar with my activities on the help desk knows. Xiner (talk, email) 03:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I know. That's why I used a level 1 template, which indicates an assumption of good faith. However, I do apologize if I did offend you in any way.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 03:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

You could've just written a note to me that I erased your edit by mistake. Templates shouldn't be used on good-faith editors, even though they have the good-faith label. Xiner (talk, email) 03:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

{{templater}} ... It's just that a personal message is so much more personable, since long-standing editors know the rules already. — coelacan — 03:31, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for telling me about that; I didn't realized that I'm not supposed to post these warnings on the talk pages of experienced users.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 03:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I'm sure I've done it before, too. Sorry again for erasing your question by mistake. Xiner (talk, email) 03:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

We don't need too many apologies now! We're fine right now. ;) Anyway, thanks for helping me out with my question; it really helped. I'm going to add a little suggestion under your comment, expect it in a minute or two.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 03:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

If you remove the template from this page, I don't think anyone will fault you. It was obviously in good faith. I was strongly considering removing it myself but I'll leave that for you to decide, Xiner. VegaDark 21:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, VegaDark. I think everything's resolved, though, and I don't feel like dredging things up again. The discussion that followed provides enough context, I hope. Xiner (talk, email) 21:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your date...

Hello, Xiner! Isn't the date on rule number 4 on your talk page supposed to be formatted as a Wikilink? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

What about Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Dates and numbers? --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Sorry if I got in your way. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Ummm, I was just kidding. Sorry for the confusion. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your effort

It has been difficult with the user you mentioned on my talkpage. It appears to me, he has re-factored every message put on his talkpage. I have tried not to engage him because he seems to react inappropriately whenever a comment is placed on his page. I have not been active here in the past week due to the death of a close friend. I have checked in from time to time to see what is going on but my heart is not here. I have dealt with pain and death before but this one hits home as we are similar ages and have become family. I know I am probably telling you more than is necesary but you probably have wondered why I have lagged in responding to your action on my behalf.

Thanks again. Ronbo76 03:06, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Size

Hello, Xiner! Is their any way that I can figure out the size (in KBs) of an article? I tried searching around on Wikipedia, but I couldn't find anything. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 21:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks, Xiner. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 22:07, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

What's with that NuggetChicken guy? Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 23:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

Okay. Thanks for the tip! Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tell me this

Tell me how I adopt a user.Trampton 13:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

You have made my day!By the way how do you become of the Welcoming Comitee?User:Trampton

Thanks!User:Trampton

[edit] UCFD

I've checked it over and I'd still say the title suggested by you is more appropriate, thanks for taking the time to contact me and telly me this - its greatly appreciated!! Tellyaddict 17:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for helping me Soaringgoldeneagle 17:59, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your message

Thanks for your message; I hope that my approach is successful — don't let's count our chickens yet.... --Mel Etitis (Talk) 22:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thank you

i'll try that —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maelbrigda (talk • contribs) 2007-03-05T23:49:48 (UTC).

Anytime. Xiner (talk, email) 00:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA?

bibliomaniac15 00:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

PS: I haven't created the page yet, as I'd like to get your approval before I go ahead. Please consider. bibliomaniac15 01:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

If you want a co-nom, I'm here! Snowolf^(talk)_CON^COI - 01:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure thing. I'll (attempt to) be patient. bibliomaniac15 02:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and created the page. Please edit at your disposal. bibliomaniac15 02:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

If you don't want to have a link to your edit count on your RFA, that's not a problem to me. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 03:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I should co-nominate too. Approval? AQu01rius (User • Talk) 18:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not being arrested... :)

I have not been hanging around the WP:HELPDESK much, so I don't know what you've been through. But it seems more than brusk to just delete the poor fellow's message. Couldn't you have said in reply pretty much what you said in the summary, this is not the place for such advice, other web sites have guiding information, and oh by the way collection agencies are notorious for lying about the real state of matters? Shenme 01:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Good grief, I never thought to check their talk page! Now I feel dumb... (but reminded :-) Shenme 01:18, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A barnstar...

		The XfD Barnstar
		For your continuous contributions to UCFD debates. Keep going this way! Snowolf(talk)CONCOI - 01:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for the barnstar you sent my way. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requests for article updates on the help desk

Hi. I thought you might want to know that some requests for updates in articles about organizations are now coming from IP addresses, and while some of them include email and phone numbers, it's been custom to delete such info, and I'm not sure how we should verify what's given to us, especially in cases where the subjects in question do not show up in web searches. What's your take on that? Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 03:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see this until today. IP addresses are okay, I think. Deleting phone numbers and emails is fine. By "the subjects", you mean you can't find references to the verify the people trying to correct the information are indeed with the company?

How many people have sent corrections, to your estimation? Have most been understanding and understandable, or furious and confusing? -- Zanimum 18:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, most are courteous in their requests. What I meant by "subject" is both the identity of the poster and the information they are requesting to be placed into articles. It's even more troublesome if neither their claim nor the article's is sourced.

I've seen less such posts recently than a few weeks ago. Xiner (talk, email) 18:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Good to hear they're courteous, certainly not always the case on OTRS. That is a troubling point, I agree. I'll take it towards the Wikimedia Foundation Communications Committee, see what we can brainstorm. -- Zanimum 18:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your RFA

Some people, including myself have posted optional questions for you to answer on your RFA. You might want to drop back in and take a look at them. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please sign my autograph page

Please sign my autograph page. A•N•N•Afoxlover PLEASE SIGN, ANYONE!!! 18:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

Hi, I noticed your up for an RfA, I strongly believe it will pass WP:100 and if your lucky WP:200 as its approacing twenty four hours since its submission and it already has thirty supports, I have already voted strong support as I know you wont mis-use the tools. Best of luck!!! Regards - Tellyaddict 21:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• In fact if you'd told me I would have been one of a few users who co-nominatde you! Regards - Tellyaddict 21:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalised edits on People's Republic of China

Considering the perceived high level of support for the CPC displayed on the article in the form of many pro-CPC editors doing their upmost to help the CPC eradicate all history deemed unsavory by the CPC from all forms of media then it's not so hard to see why it can be difficult to maintain a neutral article with an imposed censorship by the large number of pro-CPC editors, hence the capitalisation of the edit to stress the importance of removing this imposed censorship of the article. Usergreatpower 23:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage, subpage issues

Hey, Xiner. Some of my pages have been nominated for deletion, but I feel that this is unjust as I have read the user page thing and also the MYSPACE thing. All of my pages nominated for deletion, including templates, are here. Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Badminton

Ohh, thanks. Everything is ok. Is that you have some problem? You can raise it to me, no problem. Cheers --Aleenf1 02:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

That is already occured, i'm sorry. Talk to you in IRC later. --Aleenf1 02:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Medley of Comments

I would love to become a developer, but my programming experience in mySQL and PHP, which are major languages that the Wiki software are written in, is quite low. I've started to learn perl, and I know some object-oriented language (visual basic, not that much of a help). If I learn PHP quickly, I might be able to become a developer.

But if I start becoming a contributer to the encyclopedia, I wouldn't have to become a developer. To me, finding an article that I am knowledgeable in is a difficult task, since all of the information about it seems to already be there. I started some articles pertaining to my school system, though, but those articles don't seem to contribute much. If you know any articles that I could help with please let me know.

Thanks for your comment on the MfA page. Don't think that you're a failure as a teacher, because without your help, I doubt that I would even be here right now.

I'm going to be off for a while, so see you tomorrow, maybe. Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Helpme

Thanks! That wasn't quite what I was looking for, but I figured it out eventually. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 04:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:76.169.88.247

Hi Xiner,

OK, as you asked, I started to look through your recent talk page edits. Unfortunately, the first one I found looks like a warning given in error. Could you please re-review User talk:76.169.88.247? Cheers, Kla'quot 08:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ducking in

Thanks for the great welcome back, Xiner! I guess I never really left. I've just been trying to fly low and not expend too much time or mental energy on frustrating situations. We'll see how it goes. Yesterday, I created a stub, edited a stub, edited a longer article for NPOV, posted a question to the help desk (for which I am still awaiting a satifactory answer), and answered one or two questions on the help desk. Not a bad effort at making a contribution while only getting a little annoyed.--Vbd (talk) 19:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC) p.s. Are you finally going for admin status? Yahoo!

• Sign me up! Where do I go to vote? BTW, I think you mentioned a few days ago that you deal with UCfd's. I had never visited that page before, so I checked it out. I hope to never go back. What patience you have!--Vbd (talk) 20:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category renaming

No, I have not asked the persons involved because I was trying to get an understanding of the process first. I wasn't sure to what extent bots carried out the work versus admins or whoever. Today, it looks like all of the subcats have been migrated (I think by bot), but the old categories have yet to be deleted. I guess this is a multi-stage process with more human involvement than I had realized.--Vbd (talk) 20:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

How does one put more than one template on one page? Many of my subpages (about 15) are simply userboxes, and if I put them on one page, that would solve a lot of problems.

Thanks for your ideas, I'll put them to good use. Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 21:48, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 00:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hithchiker's Guide to the Galaxy

This is highly irrevelent, but have you read the Hithkiker's series? Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 00:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I saw a comment that you made on a User Category for deletion, it was the "this user can speak dolphin." You said "Delete So long, and thanks for all the fish!". I found this comment rather funny. :) Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 00:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

That's for sure! I good bit of humor here and there can go a long way. Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 00:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DRV

Oy vey! Who told you that, Tony Sidaway? :) In my opinion, you have it exactly backwards. DRV is the best, and only really, place to correct process mistakes. That doesn't mean we throw the thing out if an "i" isn't dotted, but we do worry about fundamental fairness as we consider whether we need to discuss an article any longer. For my extended view, see my comments just below yours at DRV talk.

Despite my tinge of (good-natured) horror at your remark, I like you already. I'm a bigger believer in X-solidarity! :) Xoloz 00:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Tony's motto is "fuck process"! He used Ignore All Rules in deletion contexts more often than anybody I know. He's not an admin any longer, in part, for this reason. There are still some long-time Wikipedians who follow less extreme versions of this ethic. These people are fond of calling folks like me "process wonks." I prefer to think of myself as a "fairness wonk" or a "due process wonk" -- not process for its own sake, but good process for the sake of ensuring that the encyclopedia is thorough and thoughtful. It's an old tension in community.

Anyway, having now talked with you for a bit, I'll head on over and support your RfA! Power to the X! Xoloz 01:42, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Right -- opinions differ about whether any one thing is deletion-worthy all the time. When they do differ, and the dispute is serious (ie. not a clueless newbie begging) the proper course is always some sort of discussion, so the community can pass judgment. That's due process. If I think something is speedy deletable, but you don't, we send it to AfD. We do NOT "pull a Yanksox," as it were. This is good due process, and it keeps us from killing each other. In general, always defer to continued discussion, until most people are done discussing. Very simple, very fair, rule. The more people that collaborate, the more important process fairness is.

I don't support people unless I get a really good feeling about them. :) Most RfAs, I just abstain from. I guess people notice my opposes because my standards are high, and I'm often left alone down there. As far as I'm concerned, that's okay -- it's never anything personal. Somebody has to stand apart from the crowd, or we'll all get complacent! Best wishes, Xoloz 02:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Touching base

Hi Xiner -- I posted a comment on the RfA page. Looks like you've got a lot of support. I hope the process is going well for you.

I'm pleased to report that after you told me it was okay to jump in to helping at the Help Desk, I've been contributing responses here and there. Today, someone actually acknowledged that I was helpful (see here). What a nice feeling! Now I have to take some time off from WP and get back to dealing with my life. Cheers!--Vbd (talk) 16:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blank Comments -- Oops!

I'm just too quick with the keystrokes. I realized I hadn't added a comment as the page went winging off into cyberspace. Sorry. I'm a newbie to Wikipedia editing and page creation. I'm having fun. It is rather addictive. You probably can tell better than I how much time I've spent on Wiki editing since Friday. Yikes! I'm not exactly a stage show whiz kid, but I found a niche in which to practice my editing. I started with Julie Andrews and branched off in several directions, mainly awards, biographies and organizations.

I went to My Watchlist and have a question. Could you tell me what the letters mean in the column down the left side where m and N occasionally appear? I couldn't find a key or help window there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pnoble805 (talk • contribs) 11:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

Pat 11:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] League of Copyeditors

I noticed on your page, you said you liked fixing badly worded phrases. I recommend you check out Wikipedia:WikiProject_League_of_Copyeditors. Also see the requests page. Cheers! W3stfa11/^{Talk to me} 22:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

When an article is tagged with {{copyedit}}, it is immediately placed in Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit and Category:All articles needing copy edit. There is no condition or wait period for the article to be placed in the huge category. It's in both categories once the tag is set. Some further information... Once the tag is placed, often User:Smackbot modifies the tag by adding a date to it. Once that date is added, the article is moved from Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit to the appropriate subcategory (e.g. March 2007). The 'All articles category' will always contain the article.

In my opinion, that huge category is pretty useless. All the articles in that category exist in Category:Articles needing copy edit by month. I think I made that more confusing than it really is. Please let me know if you have questions. W3stfa11/^{Talk to me} 04:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Several things...

Thanks for your comments on my MfD experience, it's much appreciated. I'll be sure to keep uploading images in mind, as this is an easy (yet effective) way to help the encyclopediea.

I joined the League of Copyeditors and have already copy-editted an article. This Wikiproject will surely give me a way to contribute.

I noticed the "permanent link" in the toolbox, what does it do? I couldn't find an answer elsewhere. Thanks! Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 00:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

OH! Okay, so if you were viewing a diff of an older verson, then you clicked on the "permanent link" button the current version would automatically appear? Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 00:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

That makes a lot more sense. You're a great teacher, ya know. Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you like my new signature? The coding is only 34 characters long! Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 01:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I dislike it, it's 10 lines long. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 01:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

That's very odd. I have a piece of script in my monobook that contracts my signature into 34 characters, and whenever I do an "edit this page" my signature looks fine. Does the user that's looking at my signature have to have the script in his or her monobook too? Cremepuff222 (talk)

Good point. I need to start thinking things through. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 02:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Email

When I attempt to send you email, I get a "No send address" error. I am logged in and have an authenticated email address in my preferences. Is there something else I need to do?

Pat 01:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cremepuff

Hello. I noticed you were online when I saw the comment you posted on Cremepuff222's talk page. Just wanted to introduce myself because he mentioned that you were also his adopter. Does that make us married? xD --Theunicyclegirl 01:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice! I submitted myself for editor review (Wikipedia:Editor review/theunicyclegirl) and added myself to the admin coaching page. Fingers crossed for progress! --Theunicyclegirl 16:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the suggestion

Yes, your comment about the edit summaries when placing anon warnings makes a lot of sense. Thank you very much, and have a nice day! =] Sue H. Ping (talk • contribs) 14:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A New Barnstar!

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		For your tireless copyeditting that normally goes unnoticed, I hereby award you with this barnstar. --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 19:12, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

You may not care about something as trivial as my support vote in your RfA, but I thought that I'd let you know that I did post it.  ~Steptrip 20:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help

I had noticed that an anon had deleted one of three school mascots on the DEHTMS page. When I questioned his/her motives on User talk:69.172.85.123, they simply offered an extremely rude reply and told me not to bother them again. What should I do? Should I leave them a user warning for incivility, or should I just leave them alone? I am just a newbie and am not very familiar with Wikipedia rules, so it would be very helpful if you could tell me since you are a veteren editor. Also, perhaps you could give me advice if deleting the band mascot, found in the edit [[3]] is appropriate or not. Thank you so much, and have a nice day! Sue H. Ping (talk • contribs) 21:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help! =] Sue H. Ping (talk • contribs) 23:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Emptying & deleting categories

Hi Xiner. Time to earn your keep again as my "adopter." Based on an overcategorization guideline, I am slowly endevouring to empty and delete categories like Category:Nova Scotia actors. I have already received the blessing of at least one of these categories' creators. My question is this: is there an efficient way ( a bot?) to delete the cat. tags from all of the pages in a given category? Or do I have to go through them manually?--Vbd (talk) 22:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. I was trying to empty some of the categories before going through the Cfd process. Is there a way to ask an admin to do this kind of thing without going through Cfd? I can do it by hand, but it will be tedious. Should I ask Samuel Wantman for help? I've been discussing the idea with him. Or should I ask at the Help Desk? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vbd (talk • contribs) 23:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

I've been a little slow in thinking this through. In part, I was trying to mis-apply some advice I got from Wantman. I haven't had a chance to take this to Cfd, but I will.--Vbd (talk) 21:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, thanks for the advice about the edit summary message. I see your point. Technically, all templates, even Level 1's, are labelled as "warnings" on the Vandalism policy page. However, perhaps "notice" or something else would be gentler in the edit summary.--Vbd (talk) 21:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is there a template for user warnings about copyvio?

First let me say that your user page is immensely useful as a directory of useful pages for active Wikipedians - well done for pulling all those resources together so concisely!

One thing I found from your page was WP:WARN. I notice that there is not yet a user talk space warning template for copyright violations. Is there a suitable place to recommend this? - Fayenatic london (talk) 21:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Aha, thanks. Template:Nothanks-web is just what I was looking for. Fayenatic london (talk) 23:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fairuse images

So we should alter our character template to make our display of our lead images smaller, to reduce blurriness? -Malkinann 22:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I mean in the template. On the page Usagi Tsukino, we've currently got the image displaying at a value of 220px - should we reduce this display size to reduce the blurriness? -Malkinann 22:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

What's the maxiumum size of the image itself that would be acceptable under a claim of fair use, then? -Malkinann 22:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I've shrunk the display size in the article to 180px to cut down on blurriness. Is that better in terms of Fair Use?-Malkinann 22:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Medley of Comments

Hi, Xiner! I found the Wikibreak quite impossible, so I'm done with it. I also did your assignment, so I'll hand it in. If you want to find me, I'm going to be doing some recent changes and new pages patrolling. Have an AWESOME day! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book, review me!) 22:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date/fix maintenance tags

Xiner --

Hi! What does this line mean? Is there something I could do differently so the bot doesn't have to fix things on my page? How do I determine what the fix was? Thanks, as always.

mb Margaret Taylor-Burroughs‎; 19:41 . . (+9) . . SmackBot (Talk | contribs) (Date/fix maintenance tags)

Pat 04:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ADMIN

Come tell me about you at my talk page. That way I can see if you'd be the best canidate for Admin. Bloddyfriday 21:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Article

Hello, Xiner. I've seen the featured article thingy (like the one at Talk:Film), and I just wanted to know how to add it to an article. I wasn't sure if you had to put the article in a list or something else like that, so I'm just trying to be cautious. Thanks for your help! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book, review me!) 23:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

I still cannot edit World War One on the username "amacher".

Your RFA will be closed soon and as it stands there is no reason not to believe you won't become an admin. Use the tools wisely. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, contribs, odometer) 23:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats

Just like Leslie Nielsen in Airplane!, let me say, Good luck and we're all counting on you! Ronbo76 23:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

I'm pleased to inform you that you are now an administrator. Please read all the material on the administrators' reading list before testing out your new privileges. For instructions, please see the administrators' how-to guide. Best of luck — Dan | talk 00:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! --Dante Alighieri | Talk 00:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Xiner! If you ever need any help with your new tools, just leave me a message and I'll try and help best I can! :) Majorly _{(o rly?)} 00:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! > Kamope < 00:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! Now you can close all my UCFD nominations :). PS, the March 7th nominations can be closed now, which means all the 0-level categories :). VegaDark 01:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll help you delete them all later today after I get back from class. :) Oh, and by the way, as for feedback, you might have wanted to allow the two people who wanted to split australian and british english off. There looked to be a consensus but requests like that are fairly rare and for a big nomination like that it would have been acceptable, but I still agree they should be deleted and there was a consensus to delete them, so you could have gone either way. Feel free to close the rest. VegaDark 19:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I wasn't the first!

DANG!! I wasn't the first to congratulate you. Anyway, I'm glad that the community finally gave someone with sense sysop status. I know with absolute certainty that you will use the tools well. Again, CONGRATS!!  ~Steptrip 00:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your new adminship

You deserved it, man. ;) bibliomaniac15 00:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

No one deserves to be a politician either. :) bibliomaniac15 05:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Successful RfA

There's quite a list here...

Congrats on your newfound adminship, Xiner! I'm sure that you will use your tools very well, and you'll make a great addition to the community! Again, congratulations!! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book, review me!) 01:06, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The MfA thing is all my fault. I should have been more aware of the rules. It was also a nice learning experience, as I learned about WP:CANVASSING, and also more about various XfD's. Thanks for all of the help that you've given me, and wield your mop well! --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Autograph Book

I have yet to get an admin to sign my autograph book, so can you sign it (it's the tilde in my sig)?  ~Steptrip 01:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I already do. Most of these mainspace edits from anti-vandalism work. I also have VPRF and Vandal Fighter on my hard drive, but I mainly use TWINKLE and the Anti-vandal tool. Check out my contribs for further info.  ~Steptrip ^(contribs) 01:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Could you review me here (I created another review page because the information on the original was outdated)?  ~Steptrip 01:41, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congradulations!

I am glad my editorial review so long ago helped. I might need one from you very soon! ;) Cheers AQu01rius (User • Talk) 02:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ahem....

.... -- Spawn Man 03:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More congratulations

My sincere congratulations on passing RfA. You have earned the community's trust :) Please do give me constructive criticism when you think I need it. Cheers! Kla'quot 05:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats man! You deserve it. Happy mopping. :-) - Anas ^Talk? 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, congratulations! - Denny 13:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Criticism

They're fine. I've received many complaints about my sig, so I installed a signature contraction script. As for the screen resolution, I have three computers on which I edit Wikipedia, and I mainly use one of the three, and my userpage doesn't look the same in the other two due to different resolutions. Again, thanks.  ~Steptrip 11:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You deserve it!!

I'm glad you RfA closed successfully, you deserve the tools and I hope if and when I ever run for a RfA you will give your honest opinion which will hopefully be support! Again, congratulations!!!! I hope youenjoy using the new tools. Tellyaddict 16:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I responded with: Hey, you're welcome; I've seen you around, and thought I'd give you my support. Acalamari 16:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats! (+ a quick note)

Congrats on your adminship! Just a quick note — blocks based on WP:U should have the autoblock turned off and account creation enabled and the block reason should be {{username}} unless their edits show that it is not a good-faith account. Usually WP:U violations are not intentional, so we don't want to punish them, just stop them from using that username. Thanks, and congrats again! —bbatsell ¿? ✍ 17:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Eh. Probably not a big deal. There were no edits from the account, and the autoblock will expire soon enough. Just something for next time :) Thanks for responding. —bbatsell ¿? ✍ 18:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, I'd misread the block log then. Thanks for re-doing the block. —bbatsell ¿? ✍ 18:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, congrats. If it wasn't for finals, I would have taken time to move to support. The oppose arguments weren't as good as the support, I think. Cool Hand Luke 20:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations as well. x42bn6 Talk 20:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Microperfectcorp

Could you look at this unblock request?--BirgitteSB 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Watchlist

Hello, Xiner. What's your opinion on adding an article talk page to your archive? Should I always add a talk page that I've posted on to my watchlist so that I know when someone else has posted on it? --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 00:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I knew that. Thanks for your help! --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 01:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright. It's just that I dislike the feeling of posting a message, then feeling like I'm being totally ignored, so I try not to leave people hanging. I probably shouldn't be writing this message, but whatever. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 01:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

I am proud to have been your first(?) adoptee! --Vbd (talk) 05:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mercyhurst College Institute for Intelligence Studies

I've made substantial changes to this page. Any chance of getting the cleanup tag reconsidered? I assume removing the tag isn't something I would do myself.

Congratulations on your recent ascent to the heavens, btw. My wife was a chat room manager at AOL in the early days and had to jump through some hoops along the way. I wish you well in it. You do a good job of helping folks.

Pat 08:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

Since everybody seems to be starting a new header... :) Congratulations, I'm sure you'll do a great job with the tools. – riana_dzasta 13:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I said congratulations above but I though I better tell you that you may wish to add your name to the non-automatic list of administrators (it takes a while to load!!)Tellyaddict 17:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I will, cheers!! Tellyaddict 17:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Last one I will make

Trampton 11:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit]  !

Hello, Xiner! Your doing great with your new tools! Keep up the great work! > Kamope < 11:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you and Congrats :)

Hey there - Thank you very much for the warm welcome and congratulations on becoming a sysop :) --Vptes1 17:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:0-level UCFD

I'm not sure, I've never even used that page before. I have always manually cleared out categories, which is usually easy enough due to categories usually being populated by templates, so you can just change the 1 template and the majority of users will change their category. VegaDark 21:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, es-0 was a template. You should have seen it before I removed it. VegaDark 21:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the remaining people in the category will all have either a Subst'd userbox or just added the category to their page outright- If you think think is annoying you should have seen when I merged all the CVU categories. There were about 150 people who I had to manually remove out of categories. Luckily, I used WP:AWB, but it still took a long time. VegaDark 21:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I got it...but we will have to wait for the job queue to remove it from the transcluded pages that used the template (i.e., the last page) VegaDark 21:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

One other tip- When deleting a page deleted by UCFD, it is a good idea to say the date of it instead of linking to the discussion (or both). This is because the link will no longer work once it is archived. VegaDark 21:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry. I had to deal with some page move vandalism before I could reply. I'll help delete some more. VegaDark 23:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Query?

Hello Xiner. How are you? Anyways... Do sysops have the power to merge articles? Respond on my page. Thanks in advance. -- Cheers! :) Zazzer 23:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User page update

Hello, Xiner. I've done all that you've said...
I added some content to my user page. Is there anything that I should add? (Or remove...) --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 02:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll try doing that once I get my mainspace and Wikipedia edits a little higher. Thanks for the copyedit offer. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 02:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

That would be simply AMAZING! IS that legal? (according to Wikipedia rules, of course...) --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 02:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks for all of your help, Xiner. See ya around. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 02:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A question

Yesterday you said that if you deleted my user page's history, my edit count would drop. So if one was doing new page patrol and posting deletion messages on pages that were eventually deleted, would his or her edit count not show those edits? Sorry if this message is confusing, it's kinda hard to word... --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 20:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Here's another question... :) On the edit counter thingy, there's something that says "number of unique pages". I'm fairly certain that I haven't created over 1000 pages though... --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 20:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, all right. That doesn't seem to make much sense to me though, as the "unique" part would imply that the pages were created by the user him/herself. Whatever, though. Thanks, Xiner. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 20:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 20:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question about image

I uploaded an image I made using a common picture of Uncle Sam with my own text. Is this okay? here --Theunicyclegirl 20:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks! I'm going to use the image to make a template for recruiting people who edit without accounts (IP editors.) --Theunicyclegirl 20:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm basing my template on that. Only with a cool image. :D --Theunicyclegirl 20:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

How do I get the text to wrap around the image? The template is here. --Theunicyclegirl 20:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Done with userpage

Hello. I think that my userpage is "stable", so do you think that you could do one last copyedit aNd then do that nifty deletion thing? Please don't if you're in the middle of something though. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 21:48, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Do you think that you could also do it to my main user page? I created that other user page to revert vandalism easier, but most of my user edits are on my main page (User:Cremepuff222). Who's that IP that copyeditted my page? --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 22:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Or should I get rid of that template and just place everything on my user page? --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 22:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry that took so long, I had some border problems, but I fixed it. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 22:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it has. Thanks very much! (Sorry I took so long to respond, I had to eat...) --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 23:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Week in the Woods

Hi there. Could you explain the deletion of this article? For one, it wasn't an A7 anyway - books aren't qualified. Secondly, the "importance" is most certainly asserted - the author alone makes it notable. Please undelete. Thanks! --badlydrawnjeff talk 00:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It's at DRV. The salting seems entirely unnecessary, BTW, especially since the third deletion was entirely improper. --badlydrawnjeff talk 00:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your closure of Category:Wikipedians who own cockroaches

Hello Xiner. You closed this UCFD as a delete. I only came to know the fate of this category when you replaced it on my user page. I have to say that I strongly disagree with your decision, as: 1) the outcome was a clear lack of consensus; 2) I find it rather unorthodox that you, having participated in the discussion, later decided to close it according to your position "delete" (even though, and I find this quite odd, you said then that it was going to be kept). I intend to take this one to WP:DRV, but before I would appreciate if you could comment on my point of view regarding this situation. Thank you. Best regards, Húsönd 01:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for undeleting the category and relisting the discussion, I really appreciate your attitude. :-) I didn't know that WP:UCFD was so understaffed. Maybe I'll give you guys a hand every now and then. Best regards, Húsönd 02:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I just rolled back your changes to my user page and Wishkres', in order to restore our names on the undeleted category. Regards, Húsönd 02:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I will. I really need to diversify my WP:XFD participation. Regards, Húsönd 02:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletions

Can you please review the WP:CSD and make it clear whcih criteria you are applying when speedy deleting. You seem to use a generic does not assert the importance or significance of the subject as your reason. Please note that this is not a general ground for deletion outside of the explicit grounds of A7.--Doc^g 02:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] blocking

Hi- I don't understand something - this IP vandal was reported earlier here: [4] It appears that this user was supposed to have been blocked (by you, I think), but there's no indication on the user's talk page. I'm not clear on how these bots work, so thought I should ask you directly. Doesn't a note go on the blocked user's talk page when a block is initiated? thanks Tvoz | talk 09:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok- that makes sense. Sorry for posting the request twice, in that case. Tvoz | talk 17:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

But just thinking about this a little more - I'm not on the vandal patrol, but I do generally call people out on vandalism when I revert it, and I report it to AIV when appropriate, but I don't look into logs or history to see if they've been reported before, so wouldn't it be a good idea for a notice to be automatically put on the blocked person's page - maybe by the bot? - so AIV doesn't get multiple reports? Not a big deal in any case, just wondering. (POint being that sometimes you come across someone's vandalism that was done prior to their being reported by someone else.) Just thought I'd mention that. Cheers Tvoz | talk 18:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Actors and Filmmakers

Hey see my proposals at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Actor and Filmmakers and the main WP Film and Biography talk page. Know anybody who is interested? Actors and all film people articles need a body on wikipedia to upkeep them asthey need more focus -it would be a part of Biogrpahy and Film. If you are interested or know somebody who would be, please let them know and whether you think it is a good progession for the project or not. Please leave your views at the council or biogrpahy main talk page. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"I've been expecting you"} 14:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

THanks. This would become a major project existing between Films and Biographies. There are so many neglected articles that a project that focuses on this is needed to the extreme!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"I've been expecting you"} 15:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It amazes me that projects like WikiProject Lego or whatver eixts but not this!!!!! People in Entertainment sounds a great idea but wouldn't it be too large in scope? I was thinking even world Cinema biogrpahies are huge in their own right let alone television etc!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^{"I've been expecting you"} 15:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms and attacks

There's a big difference between criticizing someone by way of pointing out their inconsistencies and displayed behaviour, and attacking them outright; Hong always soft-pedals attacks on those whose view he opposes, so he can go the passive-aggressive route and complain about being attacked; in this case he's entirely disingenuous about complaints about "weasel words" and so on, but you'd have to be familiar with the discussion and the content/context to appreciate by how much. My criticisms of him are valid criticisms; if Wikipedia can't deal with that in any other way than going "oooh, no personal attacks" then I think the definition of personal attack is on the one hand a little too harsh, and on the other not stringent enough to catch passive-aggressive in the act.Skookum1 21:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merge of Dr. Doug Powell into Food Safety Network

I am sending you this message because you edited Dr. Doug Powell. I added a merge template to Dr. Doug Powell proposing that it be merged into Food Safety Network. It appears that the FSN is much more likely to be considered notable than its director. Some of the info about Dr. Powell is already in the FSN article; perhaps a bit more could be added, then delete the article on Dr. Powell. If you wish to comment, please go to Talk:Food Safety Network. Please do not delete the merge templates until there is adequate time to discuss, generally about four weeks unless there appears to be significant agreement earlier. For details about the merging process, see Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages. Thanks. Ward3001 23:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your efforts. My last comment on the noticeboard was basically a clarification that it was not about a content dispute, because Skookum's comment was focused on that instead of the personal attacks. Anyway, I won't reply anymore as long as he does not attack me again. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 23:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what I need to do, but incivil comments like this keeps coming from him. And that's only one example. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 01:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

A lack of a sense of humour seems to be at fault here; the comment made was because Hong was asking for citations I'd already provided which he had explcitly chosen to ignore, or dismiss. Referring to a need for optical correction, esp. in light of the one entry on the page, was meant as a humorous jibe; but HQG's typical running-to-authority sensitivity about even the slightest remark (never mind the ones he makes at me, by insinuation rather than direct statement usually) is really tiresome, and the kid should learn to read "in good faith" and try to understand when someone is being dry/witty, as opposed to "hey, why are you so stupid?". I can't help it if Hong holds to a POV position despite comments from others other than myself that there are differing POVs; Hong wants to maintain there's only one. If eyeglasses would correct that I doubt it; as for what to do about oversensitive ears - "if thine eye offend thee, strike it out". Not strike your opponent....or expect someone else to do it for you, as here.....Skookum1 01:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What do you think

I'm thinking of creating a User account called User:Anti Vandalism User and I was just wondering what you think, it would do tasks such as reporting bad username, removing vandalism and other anti-vandalism edits. it would not be a bot, I would operate it manually without a script and I would just like to know what you think.Tellyaddict 19:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I would not participate in RfA's or deletion/discussion debates to avoid sockpuppet claims, I'd probably use the same password for each account, what do you think now? Tellyaddict 19:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Could you please unblock or see if its blocked for the IP: 62.136.40.51. It will not let me create an account under that IP address as its been restricted. Could you please make it available. Cheers! Tellyaddict 19:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh no, I'd still regularly edit under this account but just use the other for fighting vandalism.Tellyaddict 19:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

for the block against 64.8.131.172, spared me the time to report to AIV. Time I am wasting right now... back to VP. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 19:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

No harm done whatsoever, thanks again. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 19:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: My userpage

You're welcome! Glad I could help. Will (aka Wimt) 20:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In need of advice...

Hi. I was browsing through some recent changes, and I came across this. The user made the edits him/herself, so I am not sure if the content shouldn't be there. What should I do? --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 20:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

You make everything so simple and obvious. Thanks. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 21:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blatantvandal template - not final?

This is in connection with the vandalism on temperature, which has now stopped. I added blatant-vandal as I usually do in cases where an editor has more than once added what is just intended to annoy or shock, and when the vandalism was clearly continuing, moved to WP:AIV. I noticed that at [5] you added a uw-vandalism4. Now, what I'm not sure about is whether blatantvandal, a useful template, doesn't count as final, or whether there was some other circumstance which meant that you put a warning (e.g. the fact that it seemed to have stopped)? In such cases I want to be sure I am not reporting on WP:AIV unnecessarily, or causing delays to the protective blocking of active vandalism. Thanks for any insight you can provide. Notinasnaid 20:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)