Discuter:Shri Ram Chandra Mission
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[modifier] Discussion sur les Blogs
Veuillez garder la discution sur ce site a "L'Article". Pour discuter de la valeur Spirituelle du Sahaj Marg, ou de la politique a la SRCM, les blogs d'interet sont ci-dessous.
Pour Discussions plus a fond, contactez:
- SRCM=Danger
- Inner Circle of SRCM-Anglais
- Le Sahaj Marg a Detruit Ma Famille
- Pour Que Vive le Sahaj Marg- Fr & Eng
- Mielk - Information Analyse- Fr. & Eng
- Le Shri Ram Chandra Mission verolee-Fr
- Poxy SRCM-Anglais
- Our World From Another Dimension-Anglais
[modifier] Fusionner les articles "Sahaj Marg" et la "SRCM"??
Salut Sand...
Je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi que les deux article doivent etre "fusionne". La pratique du Sahaj Marg est comme les sacrements au Catholiques (la confession, la communion, le bapteme, le marriage, etc..) Ce n'est pas que les Catholiques qui s'en servent. La meme chose pour le Sahaj Marg, qui pretend etre unique a transmettre "coeur a coeur". Ce procede etait un instrument du Sufisme avec Lalaji et son Maitre avant le Sahaj Marg et est un instrument d'autres groupes aussi. Il n'est pas "unique" au Sahaj Marg, comme on le Pretend au SRCM....
La SRCM est comme le "Vatican" (catholique) avec son "management team" et sa politique etc... Si on fuse ces deux articles, il sera tres long et tres "controverse" parce que les discours du Maitre, qui doivent etre "obeit", changent la SRCM et le Sahaj Marg au jour le jour. Le Sahaj Marg est maintenant devenue comme du "spiritualisme" avec ces 600 messages de "mediums" (voire le "Whispers from the Brighter World" a $250.00 US). Quand les committes gouvernementales mentionnent l'activite des sectes, y inclus le SRCM, ils ne mentionnent pas le "Sahaj Marg", mais la SRCM. Si on Fusionne, est-ce qu'on appelle le nouvel article "SRCM" ou Sahaj Marg??? Je pense que le SRCM veut qu'on mentionne seulement le "Sahaj Marg" avec ses "3M" (Maitre, Mission, Methode) afin de cacher l'histoire publique de la SRCM et de conjoindre l'article avec leur brochures de relations publiques.
Tout comme le Vatican et le Catholicisme ne sont pas la meme chose, le Sahaj Marg et le SRCM ne sont pas la meme chose. C'est vraie que le SRCM veut que la "pranahuti" ou la "transmission coeur a coeur" et le "cleaning" soit unique au Sahaj Marg mais ce n'est pas la verite.
Au SRCM, on veut maintenant que le Maitre soit Chari et sa Succession. Les enseignements de Ram Chandra (Babuji) sont pousse en arriere comme le role, et l'histoire de Lalaji, avec son Maitre Sufi de la ligne Musulmanne (Ordre Naqshbandia) sont "efface" afin de conferer le pouvoir politique et spirituel a la ligne de Chari (Brahmin)...
Un encyclopedie se doit d'"etre temoin" et de ne pas "collaborer" avec ces changements opportunistes afin de ne pas les cacher, ou de les "fusionner" afin de leur permettre de cacher la verite de leur "histoire"...
Merci de ta collaboration...
4d-don
- Plutot que de laisser ce message partout (sauf sur ma page...) il serait plus efficace de réellement différencier les deux articles qui commencent tout deux par une phrase justifiant la fusion :
- Sur Shri Ram Chandra Mission : « La Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM), ou Sahaj marg (signifie:la Voie Naturelle) »
- Sur Sahaj marg : « Le Sahaj marg ou Shri Ram Chandra Mission (SRCM) »
- sand 5 septembre 2006 à 22:04 (CEST)
[modifier] Lettre du Petit-fils de Babuji, Fils de Umesh Saxena
C'est très sérieux! Malheureusement, c'est en anlais...On peut traduire chez Google Translate...
This letter is by the son of Umesh Saxena, grandson of Babuji...
I added some of the comments to his letter also...
This site has it:
http://tmtindia.blogspot.com/2007/01/justice-should-be-for-all-not-only-for.html
Navneet said...
We are running a spiritual society, Shri Ram Chandra Mission. It was started by my Grandfather, Shri Ram Chandra ji maharaj of Shahjahanpur. He left his physical body in 1983.
After leaving his physical body One of his disciples came up with a forged nomination which evident from the document itself to a layman with typewriting used twice and even the printed name of socity of emblem are not in aligned to each other as is in case of Printed letter heads. Moreso no where in text has he been nominated as the President of the society Shri Ram Chandra Mission. These are onle some of the startling facts of the document.
There was however a nomination given by the founder in name of my father Sh. Umesh Chandra which was in line with constitution & byelaws of the society then registered way back in 1945. He was accepted as president in 1984 by the Managing Committee of the society.
Law of UP Society Act changed in 1984 to election since then we are following the law and after Sh. Umesh Chadra ji's unnatural death in 2003 his son Navneet Kumar have been elected as the President by the Elected body.
Atrocities of the disciple claiming President ship in 1984 increased ever since I have taken over. he started a parallel society in the same name with its Head Quarters at Chennai.
We are seeking justice ever since 1984. but are not getting the same from all the courts because of reasons below:
He has appointed sitting and ex judges of Allahabad High court in his legal committee, Sitting & Ex IAS officers, Businessman, Foreign Nationals, and Retd. IPS Officers who seemingly are not only influencing the judicial but also Administrative Authorities, who on our face agree that we are talking legal but who either dismiss out petitions or give judgements/orders against us. Many a times if u notice the findings they are in our favour but judgement is not. Moreover he has aides of fund and money from India and abroad too.
He claims himself as Guru but as per the literature of my grandfather there shall be no more Guru other than him. Others shall be his successors and he shall act through the spiritual representative. Moreover even his literature and his last letter clearly states that he has not appointed the Alleged disciple as his successor and that he has nominated his spritual representative in Direct ine of succession which was as per the constitution & Bye law of the society and the act at the time of his physical demise.
Moreso the alleged disciple has also changed the constitution to suit him, but the change fortunately has not been accepted by the Registrar of Societies.
Aides of the said alleged claimant have not only harassed us mentally but also attempted on our lives several times as the alleged disciple had done with his Guru. Which is clearly evident from the notorised last letter of the founder president Shri Ram Chandra ji Maharaj of Shahjahanpur.
He has been misguiding the public at large since over Two decades now. This is being continued due to delayed justice.
Recently last year his aides Ex IPS Officer, Ex IAS Officer and Ex Judicial Officers came in into our Ashram with 150 people and attacked wife of Sh. Umesh Chandra, who is above 60 years of age and Sh. Amresh Kumar the Ashram Incharege who is about 65 years of age in presence of Police security which was provided by then DM & SP of Shahjahanpur. On the plea of the victims being beaten by the crowd also the police did not move a wee bit and people who opposed were beaten and pushed out of Ashram by Police officials. The police and Administration of Shahjahanpur, UP supported them there was a call from Mrs. Umesh Chandra's son to the SP too when the incident was taking place as someone informed her son about the incident on his mobile, who was at Mumbai at that point of time. SP refused to offer help and stated I cannot do anything sorry. and he later stopped picking up his phone.
Both sufferred injuries and they were taken by our advocate who arrived at the incident spot a while later were taken toand went to the Civil Hospital where the Medical report clearly states that they were beaten had bruises and with possibility of internal injury. The victims went to the police station to file FIR they refused to register saying No One in Shahjahanpur will file your FIR. They faxed the FIR to the DM copy to the Chief Secretary of UP and later even to the court. But the FIR is not filed as yet. The case is pending at this point of time too.
There have been incidents of even placing High Court of Allahabad orders in district court even before the hearing of case at the High court took place and the order was released. This was reported with proof to the CJI. CJI has ordered enquiry which also we know would die its unnatural death as other enquiries of the President of India, Vice President of India, The Prime Minister of India has died its unnatural injustice death.
If such a a person claims to be spiritual GURU like personality how humanely is he acting can be visible but no action whatsoever by the Authorities, People at large or even Media is taking place.
We have a feeling that since Media is not getting active even after our regular followups and requests to enter into the issue as a common man cannot even live peacefully in this country with citizens who are responsible for degrading the system of the society and the country.
So where is the justice without media intervention as the justice is in hands of the higher ups and people having contacts in this country.
We have left things to Supreme court today hoping that justice may be given at this Apex court atleast.
Navneet January 18, 2007 12:17 PM
Anonymous said...
What can you give to people as a representative of Shri Ram Chandraji (your grandfather). February 10, 2007 12:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Please can you tell me if it is possible to visit Shri Ram Chandra Ashram in Shahjahanpur these days? Who is looking after it?
I have stayed both there & at Babuji's family house in the past.
Best wishes. February 11, 2007 10:04 AM Anonymous said...
P.S. Are any of Babuji's original publications of his books still available from the Publications Dept. at Shahjahanpur?
If so, how may they be obtained, please?
What has happened to Babuji's family house at Shahjahanpur, please?
Sincerely. February 11, 2007 10:09 AM
Alexis said...
Hi Navneet,
I'm Alexis mielkarski and I try to understand the REAL HISTORY of Sahaj Marg and SRCM with some other friends like me.
Our blogs are,
- in english : http://4d-don.blogspot.com or http://innercircleofsrcm.blogspot.com
- in french : http://pourquevivelesahajmarg.blogspot.com or http://shriramchandramission.blogspot.com
I think you have some very important informations to speak for all the abhyasis. Could you come on our blogs and speak with us ?
We have a lot of questions...
Regards Alexis
February 13, 2007 3:20 PM
Charles Le Magne, EU
