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More too definite statements about Aesir/Vanir found here, snuck in by Kenneth Allan as minor edits. Martijn faassen 23:00, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Any edit that actually adds or removes content shouldn't be a minor edit. Minor edits are for correcting typos, reordering some words, adding a link, things like that. See Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page. Martijn faassen 21:42, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] pronunciation

could we get a phonetic spelling of aesir?

Done. To the best of my knowledge in IPA. Salleman 21:17, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] On words "Ása" and "Vana"

"Ása" is the genitive form of "Æsir", thus meaning "of Æsir". I can hardly see how it can "have a more religious connotation" than "Æsir", as is implied in the text, since it is just the same word in a different declinative form. The same is true for "Vana"/"Vanir". In Icelandic (and Old Norse) two words, one describing the other, are often combined to form a new word such that the main word is attached to the genitive form of the describing word. An example would be "Ásatrú" meaning "Worship of Æsir" or "Vanaheimr" literally meaning "World of Vanir".

--213.176.153.126 10:59, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Æsir or æsir?

Should "Æsir" be written with lower or upper case initial? On one hand, they could be seen as a mythological race, like fairy or nymph and so on, and it should then be "æsir"; on the other hand, they could be seen as a people, like Englishmen or Scotsmen, and then "Æsir" would be correct.

See also Talk:Vanir#Vanir or vanir?. Salleman 4 July 2005 16:04 (UTC)


[edit] Ansuz from North Caucasian (Iberian-Hurrian) 'amssV "God, Sky, Cloud"

Khattian "ESH-TAN" God of Sun; Yenissean Languages esh, es "God"; Nakh-Daghestanian Languages: as "Nobility, Conscience, God" (Lakian); "Autority, Virtue" (Avarian); Tsezian as, Gunzebian has "Sky, Cloud"; Chechenian "asar" Enthusiasm; Tabasaranian ams, Rutulian asiy "Cloud,Mist" (Hurrian ESHI "God") Nikolayev N.S., Starostin S.A. North Caucasian etymological dictionary. Moscow. 1994--80.237.10.233 10:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Starostin's claims are interesting indeed, but are very disputed among linguists. Thus, the information should not be added to the page itself... just in case, anyone plans to do this. — N-true 22:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Leipziger, du selbst mach es bitte. als Nordkausier-true du sollst es machen.das ist deine nationale nordkaukasische Mission!!! ;-)
I'm German, not Caucasian. —N-true 03:10, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Loki?

Loki's page says: "[He] was not a member of Vanir and is not always counted among the Æsir, the two groupings of gods. Sources inconsistently place him among the Æsir; however, this may only be due to his close relation with Odin and the amount of time that he spends among the Æsir (as opposed to his own kin)." - should the list on this page include a note to that effect, or is the information on Loki in need of a change? -Grey Knight 23:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Info updated in this article, thanks for pointing that out.
—Asatruer— 03:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

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