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[edit] October 18, demonstration run of 1st 'Dining Car' in Britain?

In 1878 Pullman Car VICTORIA (I) (parlour) was returned to the Pullman shops at Derby for conversion to a “Dining Car”. In the late summer of 1879 the Pullman Dining Car renamed “PRINCE OF WALES” emerged from the Pullman shop at Derby. It is reported that at least one non public trial run was undertaken, and any resulting modifications completed prior to the formally organised demonstration run. Saturday October 18th 1879 the GNR organised the demonstration run from Kings Cross to Peterborough and return. The passenger consist included dignitaries and journalists. The Pullman Company employed it first Restaurant Car Conductor in Britain, one James Bower for the trail and new service. The meal was a hot one and, with the press reporting as “capably cooked and well served”. So successful was the trail that Henry Oakley General Manager of the GNR recommended to the GNR Board that the public service should commence as soon as possible. The route selected being Kings Cross to Leeds. http://www.semg.org.uk/coach/coupe/coupe021.doc


[edit] November 1, 1st 'Dining Car' in Britain in regular service?

The first British dining-car service left Leeds for London King' Cross on 1 November 1879. This was provided by the Pullman Car 'Princess of Wales' which accommodated only 10 first-class passengers. A supplement of two shillings and sixpence was charged and the carriage included a gentlemen's smoking room and a ladies dressing room. http://www.glias.org.uk/news/217news.html First dining car introduced on former G.N.R. between London and Leeds on November 1st, 1879. The first sleeping car to be introduced in Great Britain was on the former North British Railway in 1873. http://freespace.virgin.net/neil.worthington/jx/1943.htm The Great Northern Railway (GNR) was a British railway company, founded by the London & York Railway Act of 1846. The GNR's trains were improved and expanded from the late 1870s, notably with the introduction of the first regular restaurant car service in 1879 and the fitting of continuous vacuum braking by 1881. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_Railway_(Great_Britain) Saturday November 1st 1879 and Pullman Dining Car PRINCE OF WALES entered service on the 10.00am (Up) Leeds Central - Kings Cross 2.00pm, returning 5.30pm (Down) Kings Cross – Leeds 10.10pm(1). The new service was regarded as an experiment until early 1880 when it became a permanent operation. The catering was contracted out by the Pullman Company for the service. (1) DINNER IN THE DINER - The Diner The history of railway Catering. Author Neil Wooler. 1987. ISBN 0 – 7153 – 8796 – 0. http://www.semg.org.uk/coach/coupe/coupe021.doc


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