Talk:1954 FIFA World Cup Final

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Moved per consensus. --Pkchan 13:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some things to note.

Hungary already got to finals in 1938 (lost to Italy), so the 1954 loss was not that suprising. There have been many accusations of the germans having used used doping in 1954 and hungarians demanded that fragments of vials found in the german dressroom be investigated. The germans then claimed they only gave Vitamin C in syringe to their players. But I heard the trainer admitted only two years ago they were in fact doping. Anyhow, no one needs to fear Hungary winning the FIFA WC until 2150 considering the present shamed state of magyar soccer. 195.70.48.242 10:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

"You heard"? Did a little bird tell you?

There are no cites to vouch for the supposed "doping" claims. Ernham 18:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)ernham

I would strongly dispute the assertion that the 1954 defeat was 'not that surprising'. A great deal of evidence would go to undermine such a statement, far too much than to go into any great detail here but suffice it to say I would refer to my England v Hungary (1953) entry to give some type of background as to how strong Hungary were at the time.

I've added (again) a paragraph about the doping allegations. I've found an article I've referenced; hope it's enough, since all other infos I got are in an italian article, which is obviously impossible to read for many people. Asendoh 19:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I see someone removed it. But why? I think that's an important part for that final. The motivation of the revert is "there was no doping at the time", and that's just ridiculous. How about all the East Germany athlets before the 80s then? Asendoh 13:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

if they make aspirin illegal for athletes in a given sport tomorrow, does that make all athletes that took ir prior to the rule being stated were "doping"? All your "evidence" is wreaks of a bunch of speculative sour grapes that borders on bigotry, entirely aside from the above analogy which demonstrates how ridiculous your assertions are.Ernham 06:21, 5 January 2007 (UTC)