User talk:62.163.35.236

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[edit] Huh, are you a vandal?

You should be aware that if you persevere in modifying important pages without consulting anyone, you would be blocked and would not be able to edit Wikipedia articles anymore. Your behaviour may be classified either as vandalism or a POV-pushing. --Ghirlandajo 13:46, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Any contributions an editor makes in good faith cannot be considered vandalism. That said, the terminology used in most articles concerning matters Rus’, Ruthenian, and Old Russian is the result of long and sometimes bitter debate, so it's probably best to consult before making many changes to it. The reasoning is academic, as well as political and politic, and everyone seems reasonably satisfied with the current usage. You can review some of the discussion, especially that regarding the renaming of Old Russian Language to Old Ruthenian Language—which ended up in restructuring the language articles—but that would probably take you a long time.

I've learned to know that even bad faith POV pushing is not allowed to be considered vandalism, unfortunately, and when reverting it, I should abide to a 3RR rule. Anyway, I would also ask the anon user not to disrupt the Wikipedia. If he uses talk pages, brings in and discusses sources, his contibutions would be respectfully discussed. As long as he acts otherwise, they are just reverted on sight. --Irpen 06:23, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Specifically, in Wikipedia the term Ruthenian is used to describe aspects of Belarusian and Ukrainian history during the time of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, sometimes to describe things Rusyn, but never aspects of earlier Rus’, i.e. the shared heritage of Belarusians, Ukrainians and Russians. Ruthenia is a translation of Rus’, but it's only used in certain contexts. At least in linguistics, Old Russian is used to describe the old Russian language which diverged from Old Ruthenian (ancestor of Old Belarusian and Old Ukrainian), both descendants of the Old East Slavic language (a.k.a. Common Slavonic). —Michael Z. 2005-07-19 04:22 Z

P.S.: discuss instead of sustaining revert wars, and do keep contributing and discussing flaws that you see. Your edits have already stimulated some improvements to several articles. Cheers. —Michael Z. 2005-07-19 05:23 Z

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P.S. I noticed that you've run into some problems regarding the usage of terms in articles. Remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; we go by facts and what is most commonly accepted standard. Thus, some editors have raised into question your edits changing terms into Old Ruthenia. This may not be appropriate, as the formal community generally uses other terms. If you feel that Wikipedia is mistaken, please discuss the edits on the talk page of the respective articles in order to avoid conflict. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me (click on the "A note?" link in my signature), or ask the help desk. Once again, welcome, and I hope you create an account! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:24, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

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