User talk:68.101.64.76

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Regarding user DeLarge and his bogus claims:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Saeedc

Copied from Saeedc's talk page (link above):

[edit] Response to violation of Wikipedia user DeLarge

The user known as "DeLarge" has taken it apon himself to publicly list my personal information on Wikipedia without my authorization or prior approval. After several requests he simply disregards me and refuses to remove my personal information. In return, I am also listing his information as well and I will only remove it when he removes mine:

DeLarge's Information:

Name: Graeme Delargy

Email: gdelargy@googlemail.com

IP Address: 62.252.128.* (Europe/UK/Scotland)

Resides: Scotland

Personal Web Site URL: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/graeme.delargy/

Interests: He is involved and practically obsessed with the SETI Project in attempt to search for alien life. He also enjoys playing Chess, but unfortunately, he is not known for being very good at it.

Mr. Delargy is known by many Wikipedia users as being "arrogant" and a "trouble-maker" which can be verified by viewing the ongoing disputes that he carries out on various Wikipedia articles.

If you have any additional information you would like to add to this page regarding Mr. Delargy, please feel free to do so.

Here is a copy of the FULL conversation carried on by Mr. Delargy and myself via email, which he neglects to display on his personal talk page (read from bottom to top):

Subject: Re: Wikipedia linkspamming by 68.101.64.76
From: "Graeme Delargy" <gdelargy@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, June 2, 2006 5:06 pm
To: Masked@myaddress.com
Priority: Normal

On the primary issue of User:68.101.64.76 - obviously, I never expected you to "side with me". However, I did expect Wikipedia administration to, since I was merely enforcing their policies and guidelines. And since 68.101.64.76was suspended for "vandalism" for 24 hours earlier today, I consider my conduct to have been endorsed as acceptable - at least by those whose opinions are relevant in this matter..

"I do not appreciate you creating an account on the <masked>.com site and spying on us to gather information to use against the site and one of it's members. But, because you have done this, I have obtained your IP address and have logged every page you have accessed."

I haven't created an account at FEC.com - as far as I can tell, I don't need to. The forums were not public when I first visited the site (prior to 25 May, 2.56am EDT), but they were subsequently made accessible on 27 May, 3.04pm EDT, by the looks of your post:
http://<masked>.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13 The only information I was interested in was your membership numbers, which are freely accessible to all site visitors. Traffic info was gained from a third party (alexa.com).

However, as owner/administrator, you are of course free to delete the account which you think is mine; I shall monitor your site to see if its membership drops back from 68 to 67.

"You have released my personal information on another site without my permission or knowledge. So now, I present you with one option before I pursue this further: you have 24 hours to remove all of my personal information from Wikipedia.com."

On your own forum profile: http://<masked>.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=profile&mode=viewprofile&u=2 you have already made the information freely available. Therefore, I have simply reproduced information already in the public domain - for this I do not need permission.

On an unrelated note, you have mis-spelled the name of the "Announcements" sub-forum on your site.

Regards, DeLarge

On 6/2/06, Saeed <masked> wrote: >
> Hello DeLarge,
>
> I know who this person is, both personally and on the site. He called > me last night and gave me a heads up on this little debate you two have > had on the Wikipedia.org site. I do not want to be involved with this > childish debate between you two but I have a few things to say to both > of you. I have bcc'ed him on this email so he will see this as well. >

> To him, I already told you just drop it and leave it be. It's not worth > fighting over ANY link or acting like a child over it. If people want > to come to the FEC site, or any site, they will find it in other ways. > If you want to discuss this further email me or call me. >

> And to you, DeLarge. You have some nerve and balls. I have read a few > of your postings on Wikipedia and have seen enough childish behavior > from you, I do not need to waste anymore time reading into your claim. > I do not side with you in any way and I do not think that he made a > mistake. His only intention was to help other Mitsubishi Eclipse owners > find useful information and it appears your only intention is reak > havoc on Wikipedia and act like a know-it-all macho. Shame on you. >

> Secondly, I do not appreciate you creating an account on the > <masked>.com site and spying on us to gather information to > use against the site and one of it's members. But, because you have > done this, I have obtained your IP address and have logged every page > you have accessed. >

> Thirdly, you have released my personal information on another site > without my permission or knowledge. So now, I present you with one > option before I pursue this further: >

> ***You have 24 hours to remove all of my personal information from > Wikipedia.com*** >

> If you fail to do this within 24 hours, I will contact your ISP and/or > Administrator from which you gain your Internet access from and present > them with this information and IP logs. If I need to go above their > head I will not hesitate to do so. >

> Lastly, I will not release his information or any of the members of the > site to you. >

> Immediately after I send this email to you both I will send another > email to the Admins at Wikipedia.org. >

> Saeed >
> >
> > From: DeLarge, Wikipedia editor. > >

> > Over the past week, someone with the IP 68.101.64.76 has been > repeatedly > > inserting a link to your club into the Wikipedia article on the > Mitsubishi > > Eclipse. Please note that this violates several Wikipedia policies, > and it > > will continue to be removed. Further, steps can be taken to have this > IP > > blocked, to prevent it occurring indefinitely. > >
> > If it is not you, I would appreciate if you could either (a) > communicate > > with the person directly and ask him to cease his actions, or (b) > allow me > > to contact him and communicate directly. > >
> > I have tried unsuccessfully to contact the user several times without > > success: > > through his talk page: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:68.101.64.76 > > through the article discussion page: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mitsubishi_Eclipse#Links > > through the Wikiproject: Automobile discussion page: > >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Automobiles#Exte > rnal_links_to_owners.27_club_forums > >
> >
> > For reference, these are the Wikipedia policy violations: > >
> > (i) From "Links to normally avoid" ( > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:EL#Links_to_normally_avoid): > > "3."Links that are added to promote a site. See external link > spamming ( > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam#External_link_spamming)" > > "11. A website that you own or maintain." > > "12. Blogs, social networking sites and forums should generally not be > > linked to." > >
> > (ii) From "Wikipedia:External links" ( > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links) > > "Because of neutrality & point-of-view concerns, a primary policy of > > Wikipedia is that no one from a particular site/organization should > post > > links to that organization/site etc. Because neutrality is such an > important > > -- and difficult -- objective at Wikipedia, this takes precedence > over other > > policies defining what should be linked. The accepted procedure is to > post > > the proposed links in the Talk section of the article, and let other - > > neutral - Wikipedia editors decide whether or not it should be > included." > >
> > Please also note, the size of the Florida Eclipse Club (currently <70 > forum > > members) means it is not notable enough to be included. It is not > even the > > first link on Google when searching for "Florida Eclipse Club". There > is > > nothing on the site which is not already provided for by existing > links, all > > of which are ranked among the top 1m sites by Alexa, and which have > 1000+ > > members - although this alone is not enough to ensure that your site > will be > > linked; please read Wikipedia: Notability ( > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Notability). > >
> >
> > I will be posting a copy of this e-mail on my own talk page ( > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DeLarge). Unless you specify > > otherwise, I will also post your replies in the same place in order > to keep > > the dispute open and accountable for both parties. > >
> >
> > I look forward to resolving this soon, > > DeLarge

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