Talk:Advanced glycation endproduct
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[edit] Don't Merge glycations into AGE page, do merge Advanced-Glycation- and -Glycosylation-End Products pages
Glycation is distinct from AGEs though it comprises the first steps in one of the processes that can lead to AGEs. I basically wrote these pages at different times, and now see much cross-content which needs to be put on the right page.
The subject of AGEs is huge and extememly important. Advanced Glycation and Glycosylation End Products are interchangeable terms. A-Glycosylation-Es is seldom used and should be merged into A-Glycation-Es with a link to direct people to the merged page. Another term coming into use is A-Glycoxidation-Es which covers the glycation products (mostly Maillard reaction products) and the oxidation products that are typically formed in cooking, fermentation and simple atmospheric oxidation of fats and proteins. I'm not sure what to do with that one as it is so new it is little used, but is more descriptive of the real situation. J W Anderson May 17, 2006
- As my former posting would indicate, I support this proposal. And I would also be pleased for you to take the required action. --Ben Best 03:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] merge
I vote for merging. These are essentially the same article. I would also like to see more non-exogenous information. The excessive emphasis on exogenous sources is misleading, although important.
--Nick Y. 01:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I vote for merging too
The information I was looking for was in the AGE article, the previous article on glycation was not very informative and seemed like an introduction to the AGE information. Julia
[edit] I vote against this merging
I have already commented on the Talk:Glycation page, so I will simply copy my comment here:
I would argue against this merger. AGEs are the product of both glycation and oxidation. An AGE is therefore distinct entity that should not be subsumed under "glycation". A more reasonable merger would be merging glycation with glycosylation because glycation is a non-enzymatic glycosylation, whereas glycosylation is (somewhat confusingly) equated with enzymatic glycosylation.
– Ben Best, Talk:Glycation
--Ben Best 18:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] But I favor merger with Advanced glycosylation end product
Glycosylation and glycation are too frequently confused, and are often not properly distinguished. (Conventions are weak.) Concerning AGEs, however, if Advanced glycosylation end product is used to designate this acronym, it is very rare. Almost every reference to AGEs in the literature is to Advanced glycation endproduct. Both articles should be subsumed under Advanced glycation endproduct, with Advanced glycosylation end product having a redirection to that page. --Ben Best 14:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merged
Well seeing as there were little or no objections I went ahead and did the merge for you all as per suggestions. Please let me know if I messed any of it up Bio isnt my strong point. I will also remove the other merge tag due to no consensus, plus some cleaning uop needs to be done - I suppose I might get round to that too.... -- Errant talk(formerly tmorton166) 12:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
