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Contents 1 Bourne Supremacy 2 Amman, Jordan codeshare 3 Iljuschin Il-62/-62M 4 FLy the Aeroflot! 5 Aeroflot service to the U.S. suspended 6 Management 6.1 ***

[edit] Bourne Supremacy

I don't remember Aeroflot figuring into this movie. Can someone enlighten me? - Sekicho

[edit] Amman, Jordan codeshare

Since we are listing other codeshares, how can you remove this one? -Joseph (Talk) 02:47, 2004 Oct 22 (UTC)

As I said, Aeroflot doesn't use their own aircraft to fly that route. When showing destinations, one should only list those that the said airline uses their planes to fly to.

As for the others that are listed, Aeroflot actually uses their aircraft in that codeshare. If Aeroflot DOES NOT use their aircraft for any other listed codeshares, those should be moved to another section. WhisperToMe 05:08, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Iljuschin Il-62/-62M

I missed these Airplane in the Article. 16:16, April,18th.2005 Def

[edit] FLy the Aeroflot!

During the Soviet era Aeroflot was a synonym for Russian civil aviation. One of the rare examples of Soviet commercial advertisement was Aeroflot's slogan, "Fly on Aeroflot planes!" ("Летайте самолетами Аэрофлота!"). The irony was that Aeroflot had no competitors and it was virtually impossible for an average Soviet citizen to fly on a non-Aeroflot plane.

Well perhaps they meant people should use the (Aeroflot) plane instead of the train or the bus. Meursault2004 ~

[edit] Aeroflot service to the U.S. suspended

I've merged the two paragraphs that dealt with Aeroflot service to the U.S. being suspended because they were contradicting each other. They were also in the "Accidents/Incidents" section, which is supposed to refer to aircraft accidents involving Aeroflot aircraft, which Korean Air Flight 007 did not. The new paragraph is:

• Aeroflot started commercial flights to the United States in 1968. However, in 1979 these flights were suspended by the U.S. Government in response to the Soviet intervention into Afghanistan. Aeroflot flights were further suspended on December 29, 1981, in response to Soviet actions in Poland [1], and again on September 15, 1983, in response to the Soviet Union's shoot-down of Korean Air Flight 007 over its territory [2]. Aeroflot was allowed to resume flights to the United States in 1986.

It's still not exactly clear why service had to be suspended again and again; after it was first suspended in 1979, was it merely a political statement not causing any actual change in service (i.e., service was already suspended, you can't suspend it more)? The sources don't say. Any input is appreciated. —Cleared as filed. 14:07, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Management

User:Arpingstone removed this section claiming that no other aviation article had such a list and it seemed to him unprofessional. However, this is hardly a legitimate reason. So I have reverted the change. If one feel uncomfortable with it, let's him make it more tidy and professional-looking and add such a section to another articles, but IMHO deleting it goes against WP policies. Colchicum 15:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Dbinder removed it again motivating the decision by WP: NOT a directory. However, I disagree. The very essence of WP is internal linking of the content, and official WP policy as stated in WP: NOT a directory doesn't concern internal links. I would be glad if someone would made the list more tidy, but its content is important and notable. It is important to understand who manages the comany in order to understand its history. If other articles lack this, this is not a reason to remove such a thing. After all, in the very beginning WP didn't contain anything at all. Does this mean that we should blank all the Wikipedia? Obviously no. Colchicum 21:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Also keep in mind that this article is also within the scope of WikiProject Russia, not only Airlines. What is not interesting to those interested in Airlines may well be important to other people. It is simply ridiculous to make this article fit templates of a single project so strictly Colchicum 21:33, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Here is the section, just BTW: Colchicum 21:35, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I think Colchicum is right. Articles about some of these people exist in Wikipedia. No one disputed their notability. Articles about other people may be provided in the future. However, it might be a good idea to organize such information as Table. Biophys 23:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with the airline project. If it was an article about McDonalds I would have done the same thing. Furthermore, WP:NOT#DIR certainly does apply to internal links; there is nothing there that says otherwise. The key executives and chairman should be listed in the infobox, the rest can easily be obtained from the airline's website. This is how almost every article I've seen about any corporation is set up, not just airlines. DB (talk) 04:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

If several of these people have articles, create an Aeroflot category and put them in there. DB (talk) 04:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that could be a good solution to make such category and reduce the number of listed people, especially in the Executive Management. I agree that Wikipedia is not a phone book directory. Certainly, it is not. But it is exactly for that reason the internal Wikipedia links can not be treated as a phone directory. Many Wikipedia articles include very long lists of internal links. Look for example, List of alleged secret agents.Biophys 07:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

So, Colchicum could create a separate article called Aeroflot management list and make a list indicating names, positions, and whatever about these people. Then, this Aeroflot article would be more readable. Biophys 20:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ***

Board of Directors elected at the Annual General Meeting of shareholders in 2006: Viktor Ivanov(Chairman, Deputy Head of Russia's Presidential Staff for personnel, Aide to President Vladimir Putin), Vladimir Antonov (First Deputy Director General), Anatoly Danilitsky (CEO National Reserves Corporation), Leonid Dushatin (First Deputy CEO National Reserve Corporation), Mikhail Kopeykin (Deputy Chief of the Staff of Russia's Government), Gleb Nikitin (Chief of the Commercial Organizations Property Department of Rosimushchestvo), Valery Okulov (Director General), Alexander Tikhonov (Director of Russia's Ministry of Transport Department for Structural Reformation), Vladimir Shablin (Senior Vice-President of National Reserve Bank), Andrey Sharonov (Deputy Minister for Economic Development and Trade), Alexander Urchik (Chief of the Rosaviation agency). [3]

Executive Management (as of January 2007): Valery Okulov (Director General), Vladimir Antonov (First Deputy Director General for Production), Vasily Avilov (Head of Administration), Alexey Sidorov (Commercial Director), Yuri Belykh (Technical Director), Nikolai Bosykh (Aircraft Maintenance Center Director), Konstantin Bushlanov (HR Department Head), Boris Eliseev (Deputy Director General, Head of Legal Department), Vladimir Gerasimov (Deputy Director General for Logistics), Igor Desyatnichenko (Deputy Director General for Routes and Freight Carriages Control), Kirill Budaev (Deputy Director general for Strategic and Corporate Development), Sergei Kiryushin (Deputy Director General, head of the Department for Information Technologies and Communications), Alexander Koldunov (Deputy Director General, Head of Flight Safety Department), Lev Koshlyakov (Deputy Director General , head of Public Relations Department), Mikhail Poluboyarinov (Deputy Director General for Finance and Planning), Vladimir Smirnov (Deputy Director General, Director of the Land Carriages Support Center), Stanislav Tulsky (Deputy Director General for Flight Management, Flight Complex Director), Andrei Trusov (Chief Accountant), Anatoly Volymerets (Head of Ilyushin Il-96/Il-86 flight team of Flight Operations Center). [4]