Talk:Alexandria, Virginia
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This article needs some serious correction. There is no "Alexandria County" in Virginia; what had been Alexandria County was renamed Arlington County in the 1920s. As whoever entered it in said, the article came from an old encyclopedia and shows its age. I don't want merely to replace "Alexandria County" by "Arlington County" where it occurs, because I think there is a lot more that is outdated hereand because I would not say that Alexandria is in any way, shape, or form, part of Arlington County.
- Everything from the geography and below is up to date as of the year 2000. Everything above it is questionable. -- Ram-Man
-- Beyond all of the criticisms above, a separate article on the "Beltway Bandits" would seem useful to me; It's a term everybody hears, but never gets defined. -- Penta 20:00, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)
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[edit] Baltimore-Washington
I moved down the Census designation as part of the Washington-Baltimore whateveritis, because that isn't used by any real human beings. - DavidWBrooks 18:32, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
It's not even part of the Washington-Baltimore DC-MD-VA-WV CMSA anymore, as that no longer exists. The OMB now uses the Washington-Arlington-Alexandria DC-MD-VA-WV MSA. john k 21:27, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Alexandria and Arlington
Part of the current City of Alexandria and all of Arlington County is in the area Virginia gave to the federal government when DC was created and was ceded back to Virginia around 1848. Is that helpful? Vaoverland 21:11, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)
It is, if you also clarify that "Alexandria County" existed briefly following the retrocession and included the prior city of Alexandria (minus the West End/Landmark areas which were not then part of it) and what is now Arlington County i.e. the Virginia side of the "diamond". Before cession to the district, Alexandria was Alexandria and modern-day Arlington County was (I am fairly sure) part of Fairfax County. After retrocession both became "Alexandria County", until Arlington County was later separated from Alexandria.
Also, the suburban areas south of the Beltway and west of I-395 (except for a couple of neighborhoods) are not now and never were part of either Arlington or Alexandria. They are merely addressed that way by the US Postal Service. Stacy McMahon 16:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] IDA and CNA
If two of the largest employers are worth mentioning in the article, they are worth giving the official links to. Considering that the wrong spellings have been sitting in the article for nearly two years, that alone is grounds for "necessary" linking.
By the way, I have no idea of what you mean by "unnecessary" here. Do the links provide something above and beyond the article content, to interested readers? Yes. Is it our job to predict who will or will not be interested? No.--192.35.35.36 13:53, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Why I removed the external links from within the copy
"Unnecessary" was a poor choice of words on my part. I didn't mean that more information isn't needed on this topic, but that external links within text is not the way to do it. If information about these two companies is important - and it certainly is - then the way to do it is within wikipedia. Turn the words into wiki links, then follow the links, thereby creating new articles, and begin writing!
- Once those links are available, fine. Until then, external links will suffice. There is nothing wrong with them, and removing them on the grounds that the perfect article doesn't yet exist is simply ridiculous.
- As it is, I expect there to be no point on wikifying IDA and CNA, since there is little information available. Their websites are less than revealing, for obvious reasons.
With rare exceptions, putting external links within articles is frowned on, because the whole idea of wikipedia is to create an inter-linked sea of information that everybody can edit. If we send people outside the sea, then some of this information can't be edited, and people can't link from there to new wikipedia information (which is one of the key strengths of this encyclopedia). - DavidWBrooks 14:52, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- And part of WP is to document as much as possible. In this case, the external links. You're being absolutely ridiculous.--192.35.35.36 16:16, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
OK, I turned them into internal links - which shows that there already is a wiki page for CNA! You are welcome to create the other one. - DavidWBrooks 16:38, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, well done. A happy ending.--192.35.35.36 21:18, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] An unanswered question about the history of the area
Having read (or at least skimmed) the articles on Alexandria, Arlington, and D.C., I'm still slighly unclear on one point, which I was hoping this article might answer...
Alexandria City is part inside the diamond, part outside. Does this mean that when Virginia ceded the land south west of the Potomac to create D.C., Alexandria became a split city, part in VA and part in D.C.? Or is the portion of Alexandria outside of the diamond a later addition, that dates to a time after Alexandria County was returned to VA?
Apologies if this is already covered and I missed it Roy Badami 21:00, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- The West End / Landmark section certainly wasn't part of the city at that time. The original western boundary of Alexandria was Royal Street, and the city website timeline [1] only mentions two other instances of annexation: one in 1930, when Alexandria incorporated Potomac (Del Ray); and one in 1952, when the city incorporated the "land west of Quaker Lane from Fairfax County." Although I am now staring at a 1798 map of "The Plan of the Town of Alexandria in the District of Columbia," [2] and it quite clearly depicts several city blocks extending south of the District line.
- Hm.
- I'm going to put forth the most obvious conclusion: Alexandria wasn't chartered as a city until 1852, so any non-DC "Alexandria" residents probably just carried on, business as usual, as residents of the "Alexandria" part of Fairfax County. Which sounds strange until you remember that all of Richmond Highway calls itself "Alexandria" ... --Browncat 04:21, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Revolution
The heading Revolution is inappropriate: there is no info on Alexandria in the Revolution.
Does anyone have any information on the rabbit as Alexandria's unofficial mascot that could be included?