Talk:AMC and Jeep transmissions

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When I get some more time to expand the article, I may add section stubs in. I don't agree with removing stub status on an article with major sections missing yet.

Also: may we refrain from having an article duplicating each section? A redirect to the main article would be more appropriate, as so may automotive parts appear to have lots of small articles with little real information in them. i.e. Some engine families appear to have a whole article on each displacement, even with all parts being block-interchangeable, and the articles all have the same introduction with just a short set of technical specifications there. Not that someone couldn't write a comprehensive view of just one model, but people seldom do.

Related: "Jeep four wheel drive systems" should not be duplicating information from here. It should be one place or the other. We should not be listing model/year/option combinations, that exists there. See following:

Applications:

• Jeep Cherokee (XJ)
• Jeep Wrangler (YJ, TJ, JK) 1987–Present
• Jeep Grand Cherokee (ZJ) 1993–1996
• Jeep Liberty (KJ) 2002–Present

is not what the goal is here.

Also, my biggest difficulty currently is in finding specifications for some of the NP transfer cases, especially the 24X line. Help would be appreciated.

[edit] This is a mess

First off, this article needs to be totally reorganized so that it's easier to read and it complies with the Manual of Style. Also, the article should use more proper terms (i.e. "V8" instead of "V-8") and less abbreviations (i.e. "1969" instead of "'69") --ApolloBoy 00:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, most of this info can be put into articles on each transmission, and just leave this as a list of the transmissions and their applications. This is incredibly incomplete anyway, most of the info on earlier stuff is either missing or incorrect. --Sable232 01:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

If you feel it incomplete (it is...), feel free to research and add to it. Thru is equally valid as through, it is a matter of dialect, IMO, but whatever. Tuor 04:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, if you can point me to where in the MOS It is in remiss, that would help! I can't seem to find what your referring to there. Is there a page that describes engine terms (V8/V-8)? It appears both ways in many articles and I have wondered if there is a guide to that.

Tuor 04:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I think what ApolloBoy is referring to is that the info is put into a bunch of tables that include more or less unnecessary information (material, cooling) and the tables aren't in order (or at least not one that I can make sense of). I'm trying to figure out a way to make sense of all this, but I can't right now. --Sable232 04:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, like Sable232 said, it would be much better to simply put in all of the transmission info into their respective pages (or create pages for them) rather than clump all the info together in a single page. Also, your sections have improper capitalization. They should be like "Early Jeep transmissions" rather than "Early Jeep Transmissions". A bigger problem I see with this is that the entire article has incomplete sections and poor organization, making it very hard to read. Again, I would much rather see this as a simple list with wikilinks to various transmissions and transfer cases (along the lines of this), rather than as a convoluted article filled with unfinished tables and sections. --ApolloBoy 05:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)