Talk:Andrew Van De Kamp

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Contents 1 Summed up the summary 2 Length 3 Sociopath? 4 Tense 5 Family 6 FA

[edit] Summed up the summary

I just wanted to say I have reduced the summary because it was beginning to get too long and less and less clear. However I added a quote section and left the critical receptions points as they wear. Feel free to help with the quote section or anything else. Siemgi

Please reconsider - I spent seven hours writing that. Also, quotes belong on Wikiquote, not Wikipedia. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I know about quotes, but several articles (especially Desperate Housewives ones) have quote sections anyway. And I understand your point of view, and you can still push the revert button if you want, but I think that it was too different from other Desperate articles so I made it fit in. I'm truly sorry if I offended by doing so. Siemgi

Just because the other articles are like that doesn't make it right. :) I was going to peer review anyway, so I guess I'll ask which is better and get some more feedback. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 09:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, the general view from the peer review is that my version is better but needs to be trimmed down. I get that, will do so, and I hope you will not be upset by my revert. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

For the record, I hate all the DH quotations. It's a wiki, not a personal website; the choice of quote will always have an opinionated slant to it.~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 21:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, you would quote especially powerful parts of a book, wouldn't you? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:13, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Length

Why is this article so long? Not even the housewives have such lenghty summaries. I love Andrew but this needs to be cut considerably. It also needs to be formatted like the rest of the character bios, agreed? We need some uniformity in here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by OnTheCusp (talk • contribs) 09:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

No, certainly not agreed. Just because the other articles are short does not mean that Andrew also has to be so. An article needs to be comprehensive as well as concise. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 10:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

This is not comprehensive, it's meandering. It doesn't make any sense and doesn't tell his story well at all.OnTheCusp 20:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Season 2 certainly doesn't, and there needs to be consistency in tenses. However, to cut it down simply so it looks like the other DH articles is a very bad reason for editing a page. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sociopath?

I edited the description of the character of Andrew as a sociopath because after watching every portrayal of the character I didn't see any strong evidence of the characterization. I replaced it with the word "troubled" because it is sufficiently vague to encompass the possiblity of the character being a sociopath (to respect whomever chose to write that) without the conclusion. My reading suggests that that the character could just as easily be manifesting adolescent behavior consistant with pre-adult frontal lobe developement; not at all uncommon. Given the range of possible interpretations of the behavior, I thought a more inclusive description was more appropriate.

Didn't Marc Cherry describe him a sociopath?~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 11:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes. And also, do you remmeber when he said "There's a reason my mum threw me out on the streets. You don;t want to meet bad Andrew." Seems fairly sociopathic. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 15:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tense

Right, I want to get some serious work done on this article, I need to know, what tense should it be in? The past, or the present historic? At the moment it's a dreadful mixture of both. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 19:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The past it is. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 08:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Policy is that when writing about fiction, everything is present tense.~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 14:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What? Where? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 16:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, WP:WAF says that when talking about fiction, everything is (although it gives examples of exceptions).~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 17:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I found it. Ugh. I'll get on that. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 17:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Family

Why did my family section get removed? I spent ages going through every Desperate Housewives character with their own profile doing that section.

Why? It's in the inofbox at the top. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 21:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah but its in at the side and it focusses alot on non blood family as well. Just though i'd do a part focussing on bilogical family.  :P

Uh, there are ten people in that infobox and eight of them are related to Andrew by blood. Really, there's no need to repeat it. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FA

Um, if this article is a FA, shouldn't there be a little bronze star on the top right corner of the article? :-) And congrats for getting FA! Raystorm 14:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I just hadn't got around to adding it. And thankyou. :D Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 16:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)