Talk:Anti-Europeanism

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This is kind of US-centric but I don't know how to fix it. Hostility by people in EU countries towards the EU is a kind of anti-Europeanism in this sense, right?A Geek Tragedy 17:33, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

This article is pretty bad but I can't think of a quick way to edit without weasel words. I suppose Don Rumsfeld is perceived as anti-European, maybe because of his old Europe comments, but by whom? Maybe Rummy's pic and the comment should be removed altogether. --209.128.81.201 17:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Christanem- can you please provide references or perspective for some of your edits, especially: -The implication that The United States of America is a "fading empire?" -The implication that both the United States and Iran are "regimes?" -The argument for the refusal to allow American troops to commit war crimes? This article is pretty bad and I'm not super happy with my own edits, but there seems to be little attention in the talk pages. Maybe you and I can start. I saw that you opened this article up. Thanks! --209.128.81.201 18:58, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

"Europe is critized for respecting human rights too much": Europe is critized for thinking that "illegal enemy combatants" should have human rights, censorship of cartoons is intolerable, etc.

"Refusal to sign treaties that allow U.S. troops to commit war crimes": that was a major transatlantic issue, with harsh criticism from U.S. See [1]--Christinam 22:25, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Christanem; I'm comfortable with some changes- but I still think that your wording is still pretty POV against the U.S. Is it possible to reword to reflect a more NPOV tone, and direct some of your concerns to the specificities of the U.S. administration, and not necessarily the people of the U.S.? I'm sorry but I don't think the comments that "shoot-first-then-ask" are strictly Encyclopedic. I think maybe better would be "preemption" or something?

Um, how the article can have negative tone of other geographical entities when it's about the negative attitudes against Europe? See Anti-Americanism, Anti-Arabism, Anti-Canadianism, Anti-Chinesenism, etc. - an Encyclopedic article is about discussing the range of opinions/phenomenons/etc. (in this case, against Europe) that are held.--Christinam 11:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)--Christinam 11:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again Christinam; I think we can get something that's closer to NPOV. You might think that I've framed all of my wording as pro-anti-European or even pro-American/US, but likewise I think you've framed some of your wording as anti-American. Thanks for the reference. As for other "Anti's," I question some of their wording as encyclopedic as well. Cheers, --M a s 21:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi- the remark "radical Christianists like Pat Robertson" feels highly offensive/provocative as a Christian... Do we truly need to label people "Radical"?

Can't everyone just insult one another directly? --Azaza767 01:06, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

It's not offensive/provocative to express that Pat Robertson or Osama bin Laden represent rather radical forms of their religions.--Christinam 21:30, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't "anti-Europeanism" logically entail criticising some aspect of Europe which is NOT criticised when met with elsewhere? The things which Pat Robertson and Osama Bin Laden dislike about Europe are things which they dislike always and everywhere in principle. That, surely, does not constitute "anti-Europeanism"?

Isn't this article identical with Euroscepticism? --Michkalas 20:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

This article really needs to be improved, in reference to the above point, anti-Europeanism is certainly not Euroscepticism. Euroscepticism is an unfavourable attitude towards European integration by citizens of European countries. Anti-Europeanism is a general unfavourable attitude towards Europeans in General. UKIP would be classed as Eurosceptic, Bill O'Reilly as anti-European. blankfrackis 13:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I added some content to the page to get us started, I think if anyone is wishing to develop this page further (and I've only added two sections so it's needed) it should be along similar lines to the anti-Americanism page as the two terms are similar. blankfrackis 15:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

"This, according to proponents of the argument, is particularly relevant given the questionable empirical basis of many of the accusations.[4]" What exactly does this mean? It seems overly confusing.

[edit] Arabs and anti-Europeanism

Arabs have some feelings that might be considered as anti-Europeanism. --HIZKIAH (User • Talk) 13:25, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missed examples

One could of course expand this article to include various historical and contemporary instances of anti-Europeanism, specifically against those of European ethnicity. For instance, the slave raids by Africans against European coastal towns, the Asian invasions, the exponentially higher African-American crime levels directed against European-Americans. I realise though that might violate Wikipedia's political correctness.

194.46.183.72 04:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Those aren't examples. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Only 8% of crimes are interracial and black on white and white on black crimes are extremely close. The slave raids are were not racially motivated and the rest of what you mention is original research. Remember to be civil and avoid personal attacks.You very nice place 01:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)