Talk:Arindam Chaudhuri

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[edit] Archived discussion

I archived the past discussions. Kindly add your new comments at the bottom of the page. Regards, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 18:22, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removing reference to IIPM controversy

I notice that a new reference to the IIPM Controversy page has been put up without a comment on the discussion forum. It has no connection with this biography; so removing it. Kindly put your comments before reverting the change. Thanks, and regards, Mrinal 125.19.3.2 06:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I also am proposing deleting the IMdB web site listing of Rok Sako To Rok Lo. It seems to have no connection again with the biography. Can I include rather the websites of his company Planman Consulting? I'll wait for a couple of days for your responses before undertaking that change. Regards Mrinal Pandey 07:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Created new subsection and removed spurious info

Created new subsection about the claims of the advance Rs. 25 lakh for his book, as suggested by Mrinal. Also removed Narayana Murthy et al's names from the awards section. I'm sure the mention of the award, alongwith the given external references, constitutes enough information to stand by itself.

Regards, Max 14:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Replacing Max's change

Hi Max, I'll be putting back N. R. Narayanmurthy's name, alongwith other people's names also, to give the reader an idea about the background of the award. With respect to the detail about the claims with respect to the book, I propose deleting the section. The maximum you could give is a link that links up to the news on the supposed claim of advance and stuff. I see no place authenticating the claim. Anyway, will wait for your suggestion before deleting and redoing it all. Thanks. Mrinal Pandey 06:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

On second thoughts, removing the section right now Max. I guess you should write a paragraph each about the books and the magazines and then give a line about the claim. Rather than doing vice versa. That's not adhering to the space and balance guideline defined by Wikipedia. I'm sure you must have read that in the policy book. So if you wish to put back the paragraph I've taken out, kindly do that after you put at least double that stuff on each book mentioned. Or wait for a couple of days, I'll put back the paragraph alongwith details on all the books. Best regards, 59.144.186.180 06:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I guess the revert by admin CambridgeBayWeather (of his own accord) has validated my changes, but I will still reply to your points.

When you say "I see no place authenticating the claim", what do you mean? The story has appeared in a newspaper (The Indian Express), and that newspaper has been duly cited. Who else should have authenticated it, according to you?
I cannot understand why you wanted to put the onus on me to write "at least double that stuff on each book mentioned" if I want to add a verifiable piece of information about one of the books. I know the space and balance guide on WP, but it is hardly applicable here. Nevertheless, I had kept the subsection small (two sentences), and I don't think that it upset the balance of the section (in fact, making a separate section was your recommendation). If you want to add information about the books, please do so but do not delete legitimately cited information only because it doesn't suit your POV.

Regards,

Max 12:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Dear Max, I've included the correct source as being Ahmedabad Newsline (and not Indian Express, as you mention). I've also included the complete news from the Ahmedabad newsline article. I hope you do not delete legitimately cited information about other people, that I've quoted from various reports, including from Ahmedabad Newsline (and not Indian Express)... Regards Mrinal Pandey 19:54, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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Hello Mrinal, please read the following points before you edit:

You had written:

Along with Infosys Chairman N. R. Narayanamurthy, Arindam Chaudhuri was awarded the 2006 Priyadarshini Memorial Award for Excellent contribution to Management

The above statement makes it sound as if both got a joint award in the same category, while the source (Mumbai Newsline) says:

Arindam Chaudhuri (India): Outstanding contribution to the field of Management
N R Narayana Murthy (India): Outstanding Contribution to IT sector

Clearly, they've received awards in different categories. I still fail to understand why you want to include N R Narayana Murthy's name in this article. Why not include ALL the awardees' names then? This isn't an article about the Priyadarshini awards, is it? :-)

I have removed the following lines, which clearly misled the reader:

An article published in Ahmedabad Newsline also reported that unfortunately for McMillan, Chaudhuri’s press release has made the amount public, as it says: ‘‘With this (the advance for The Great Indian Dream) he betters the previous record of Rs 10 lakh that he had received for his earlier bestseller Count Your Chickens Before They Hatch.’’

The original source reads:

Quite obviously, our publishers don’t see the merit of projecting advance amounts for promotion purposes. Take for instance Chaudhuri’s first publishers, Vikas Publishing House. They too did not use the fact that they paid Chaudhuri what they now tell us was a ‘‘handsome amount’’—but they won’t tell us exactly how much—for Count Your Chickens....

Unfortunately for them, Chaudhuri’s press release has made the amount public. It says: ‘‘With this (the advance for The Great Indian Dream) he betters the previous record of Rs 10 lakh that he had received for his earlier bestseller Count Your Chickens Before They Hatch.’’ After all this, it looks like Arindam Chaudhuri may have learned a few lessons of his own in counting his publishing chickens before they hatch.

Them refers to Vikas Publishing House not MacMillan India. If you want to use these lines, please use them with the proper reference to context.

You've replaced Chaudhuri with Arindam Chaudhuri. Please note this: Manual of Style for biographies. I have not reverted your changes regarding this, and am relying on your good faith to do so.
Ahmedabad Newsline is a part of The Indian Express, not a separate newspaper, hence I had mentioned IE as the source. I have no problems in being more precise and mentioning Ahmedabad Newsline, but I have mentioned it as a part of the Indian Express, which it is.
Please don't remove the <references/> tag in the end. It is a handy way of linking to sources from within the article. In your previous edit, all the in-article reflinks (the little ^{[1], [2]} links above some sentences) to the References section were orphaned because of removal of the <references/> tag.

Thanks,

Max 07:39, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Removed award detail

I have removed the award detail which quoted that Vilasrao Deshmukh and Kamal Nath gave the award. Both the references sourced do not support this claim. Even if Deshmukh did hand over the prize, he did it as a chief guest, and not an awarding authority. Thus, even if it is mentioned, it should be made clear that he was only a guest of honour/chief guest. — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 07:42, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

That little detail had been nagging me too. Thanks Ambuj. - Max 09:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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