Talk:Armanen runes
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I guess it needs a picture to be relevant. Evertype 23:55, 2005 Mar 1 (UTC)
- you are welcome to add it. dab (ᛏ) 11:28, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I haven't got one. Evertype 11:33, 2005 Mar 8 (UTC)
Why? This system is quite obviously fake. If some bonehead thinks he wants to know the pictures, let him go find them. If you had any doubts, the symbol "os" solves them. First off, by the rules of mutation, the name "os" in the younger futhorc comes from an older "ans-". So to say the original rune was "os" is absurd. Secondly, he says it means "mouth". "Os" is Latin for "mouth". To have one piece with a Latin name is absurd. These can obviously have no authority.
[edit] FK0071
I would be grateful if you could edit a little more responsibly, sparing me the effort to scrutinize all your additions. How can you state nonsense like The Armanen Runes have been very influential in German-speaking countries, where they are better known than the Elder Futhark (or common Germanic Futhark)? Also, However, the Armanen Runic system is making a big impact in the English speaking Western world. is pure subjective hype, and listing a couple of internet pages does nothing to substantiate it. You would need to say "in the opinion of XY, the Armanen runes still have significance in English-speaking occultist literature", citing some study by Dr. XY. dab (𒁳) 11:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- also, you seem to be very insistent to link to Nigel Pennick from all possible and impossible places. Are you, by any chance, him? dab (𒁳) 11:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- In regard to your edit summary, I never said that ‘The Armanen runes are also known as the Elder Futharkh’, I said that in German speaking countries they are better known than. I admit, I need to cite references which I am going to do now, by studies. 3 main studies are by Dr. Stephen E. Flowers Ph.D., professor Stefanie von Schnurbein, professor Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke B.A. and Nigel Pennick. I will cite these studies. I also admit that I need to edit my edits rather a lot, it looks a mess for others to review. No, I am not Nigel Pennick. I do take on board your suggestions Dab and want to get better at this. Thanks. Also, how is this new edit? FK0071a 13:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- oh, I apologize, this is my fault, I didn't read properly. I have serious doubts, however, that the Armanen runes are "better known than the Elder Futhark". I appreciate you are editing in good faith, and yes, it would be nice if you'd use the preview button a little bit more. Still, try not to get too carried away; your view seems to be largely that of esoteric or occultist literature, and that mostly doesn't translate to general statements. I'll grant you the Armanen runes may be more prominent than the Elder Futhark, in occultism, but not in any more general way. dab (𒁳) 14:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
alright, now a formal point, instead of repeating full bibliographic references in footnotes again and again, you should do a "Literature" section, where you list each work once, and say merely "Pennick (1995), p. X" in the footnote, this is far less bulky. dab (𒁳) 15:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
You seem to be misrepresenting your sources. You make a specific claim, and then link to like five websites as "references", without making clear what parts exactly your claim is taken from. Listing five books isn't good for backing up a claim as specific as "the Armanen runes are better known than the Elder Futhark". This claim either is on some page in some book, or it isn't, this isn't better than citing "see Congress Library" as your reference. Likewise, the claim that the runes are used in a "non-racist, pansophical" context is attributed to like five websites. Looking at Kasen's website, far from being "pansophical", the man is insisting on a "racial folk-soul" and "Holy Odinic vastlands". This is pure racialist-facist mysticism, and nothing like "eclectic pansophy". If one of these authors claimed such a thing, say which one, and where. dab (𒁳) 08:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kasen
FK, I have my doubts this V.O.L. Kasen person is notable and should be mentioned among other authors. All he seems do have published is a geocities page, this might as well be some random pseudonym. Geocities pages don't really count as references. dab (𒁳) 15:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
