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Contents 1 Archive. &Image in corner. Prime minister. 2 Minor changes needed 3 Prime Minister 4 First nation to adopt Christianity

[edit] Archive. &Image in corner. Prime minister.

There are many things wrong about this article.

1. Why has this talk page been completely archived? An editor should not archive a page completely and i will put back some recent conversations later.

2. The image in the upper right corner of the article is a semi-protection lock, but this page is protected completely.

Done Harryboyles 07:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

3. The prime minister of Armenia died so we need to put under Prime minister (on the Armenia template) "vacant" to match the Politics of Armenia template. Yaanch^Speak! 21:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Done Harryboyles 07:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minor changes needed

Since the page has been protected, we can't make minor (or any) edits, so here's the beginning of a list of problems:

• The link from "Van" points incorrectly to Van rather than Van,_Turkey

Where is the link. Using find in Firefox, I couldn't find it.Harryboyles 07:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Whoops: I actually saw the mistake on Armenian Genocide, another protected page. Can you change that one, Harryboyles?

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.70.231.67 (talk) 12:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

• (As stated above) The lock image in the upper right corner of the article is a semi-protection lock, but this page is protected completely.Yaanch^Speak! 23:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Done Harryboyles 07:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

• (As stated above) The prime minister of Armenia died so we need to put under Prime minister (on the Armenia template) "vacant" to match the Politics of Armenia template.Yaanch^Speak! 23:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Done Harryboyles 07:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for editing the page for us. Yaanch^Speak! 23:37, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prime Minister

Will one of the administrators please get on and remove the deceased Adranik Margaryan from the current PM on the infobox and replace it with "vacant", it's been long enough now. It's all good and well to block unregistered users but we are not all vandals. 212.24.91.2 07:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Done Harryboyles 07:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First nation to adopt Christianity

I recently discussed how the Assyrians were the first "nation" to adoopt Christianity, thats what the article Assyrian New Year states any way and thats what all Assyrians traditionally believe in, yet I got a nonesense response talking about an old 2nd millenia BC Armenian King and Assyrian Qyueen, nothing to do with Christianity. So what is the response? Should not all other wikipedia articles that relate to this matter acknowledge the first true christian nation?Tourskin. PS don't delete this because I want to know. This is not a personal attack on Armenians.

I don't think Assyria has been a country since about 609 B.C. It is possible some Assyrian communities (as did some Jewish and Greek) adopted Christianity very early, but in order to be the first Christian nation, you have to have an independent nation. The Assyrian New Year article, as far as I can tell, says nothing about being the first Christian nation. Why nobody came out and said that in the first place, I do not know. The Myotis 07:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

yes, the projection of modern nationalism 2000 years back is fallacious. The Christian church is a direct antithesis to the idea of "nation". The term "state religion" is probably misleading even in the 4th century. Armenia at the time was a client state of the Roman empire, and the 301 adoption of Christianty merely reflects the rise of Christianity in the Roman empire as a whole. dab (𒁳) 08:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

It is true that Christianity was spreading through the Roman empire and surrounding states, and Rome would make its own state religion Christianity less than a 100 years later. However, this does not change the fact Armenia did it first. The article should remain as is.The Myotis 17:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

if you want to identify the contemporary Republic of Armenia with the 4th century Kingdom of Armenia, that is. The statement would be more at home on History of Armenia or Kingdom of Armenia, since it doesn't deal with the political entity treated in this article, but with a (rather remote) predecessor state. Saying "Armenia was the first nation to adopt Christianity" when the nation state itself dates to 1991 is questionable. A more correct way of saying it would be

"the Kingdom of Armenia in 301 adopted Christianity, making Tiridates III the first ruler to prescribe Christianity as the official religion of his dominion [followed in 337 by Mirian III for Georgia, and in 380 by Theodosius for the Roman Empire]."

Likewise, the 2492 BC (??), 1000 BC and 600 BC dates are most questionable and reek of antiquity frenzy. dab (𒁳) 17:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The article describes the Armenia of 301 and the Armenia of today as being more or less the same entity, being that Armenians have existed more or continuously and as a distinct political and ethnic entity in the same general area since that time. If you feel it would neutralify the statement, we can mention that it was the Kingdom of Armenia and not the the Armenian Republic. The Myotis 17:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)