Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Claimants of the Duchy of Braganza
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 23:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Claimants of the Duchy of Braganza
From CSD tag by User:BBird This article sole objective is to try to invent a controversy that does not exist in real life. The issue of non legitimate pretenders might deserve a paragraph the history of Portuguese monarchy, not more than that. The status of Mr. Poidimani, which nobody knows, is only defended by a sole anon editor (probably the pretender himself or someone very close)-- pgk(talk) 22:09, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- Keep This article has a big importance about the Portuguese succession. In this article are described also the pretension of other two pretenders and their affermations. About the Pact of Paris, also if this really existed, now there is no documental proof of this Pact and also Mr. Duarte Pio of Braganza in his last book affirms this. If these my affermations are false please Mr BBird to inform me and other Portoguese People where is possible to see this important document. This document is foundamental for the Crown Rights of Duarte Pio and he based his rights on this Pact that none have seen. M.deSousa 19 January 2006 (UTC)
about the "famous" false Pact of Paris... see this offer [1]
- Delete. M.deSousa's attempts to turn Wikipedia into a promotional site for their campaign to push the alleged pretender status of someone largely unheard of even in Portugal is getting tedious at this stage. They seem to jump from article to article pushing that agenda. We don't need yet another article going over the same goddamned thing again. Articles on this topic seem to be breeding like rabbits. Frankly, most of us are fed up of dealing with this crap. If M.deSousa wants to promote the royal claims of someone, open up a blog and stop trying to use WP to push the claim. FearÉIREANN
\(caint) 23:25, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. The basic issue is that the only pretender with any following is Dom Duarte. Technically, there is reason to question his claim under the legal order of succession of the 19th century Portuguese monarchical constitution, but nobody in fact does so. The only actual challenge comes from this Poidimani character, and it is rather difficult to see where he comes by any claim at all, his claim being that he is the adopted heir of a bastard daughter of the second-to-last king of Portugal. All this article does is give false legitimacy to this fellow's nonsense. Beyond that, the article is mistitled for an article on general issues of Portuguese monarchism, since it is not the "Duchy" (Dukedom?) of Braganza that anybody cares about. john k 07:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
