Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homework cremation ceremony

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. – [ælfəks] 09:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Homework cremation ceremony

Seems to be a non notable unofficial event at a single school in Florida. I'm not thinking this deserves an article. - Bootstoots 21:33, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - quite amusing, but almost certainly non-notable. Bob 21:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - this event is being extended into further schools and a DVD is being produced this year to help gain recognition of the event. However, the school does not endorse this activty yet for obvious reasons. *Note* the DVD this year is being produced on a larger scale (50+ copies) and word of mouth will help it gain in significance. Also, have some levity with this; if the page is kept, it will become a common meeting place for kids interested by the idea. Also, contrary to popular belief, we do not burn important documents - only busy work. Robbie 22:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Strong delete After the 100 days holiday we have this - every USA school seems to want to create a holiday via WP. BlueValour 21:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete or Merge - I don't think this event is exclusive to the Spanish River High School in Florida, since I've heard of other schools doing it in my area (Puerto Rico). Hell, I used to do it with some friends back in my school days. That aside, I doubt a subject like this deserves an article, and a single event in one school doesn't meet the notability standards. I mean, what next? Should I create an article of how a few schools in my area celebrate their last school day? And I'm not even mentioning that this article doesn't have any references or sources... ;-) If this information is deemed keepable, then consider merging it with Spanish River Community High School -Mtmelendez 22:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Invalid argument. ackoz 22:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete non-notable, made-up holiday. Also, imho, the students should be forced to attend school during the summer to totally rewrite (NEATLY and CAREFULLY) all the homeworks they burned and if they won't do that, or if the redone homeworks earn a lower grade than first time round, they get held back a year. Perhaps then they will understand the importance of respecting homework - yes, that's right, even so-called "busywork". just my two cents. actually, why don't I write a strongly-worded letter to the Spanish River High School board of governors right now. Bwithh 22:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Invalid argument. ackoz 22:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, apart from the first sentence, I was just kidding around (although how will the school produce even more reality tv gameshow alumni in the future without homework?). But since ackoz is being so serious in his misguided way... Acoz, please read WP:NOT and not how wikipedia is an attempt at an encyclopedia - in fact, surprising though it may be, this is its primary, overriding purpose, and not a showcase to popularize ideas made up one day in school Bwithh 23:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep, please all of you pay attention, the editor who started the article is still trying to expand it. Articles like this should not be deleted per notability. Mtmelendez the article doesn't have references or sources, because it was started today and is still being written. It is a blatant ignorance not to check the history page and vote per your IMHO that the students should rewrite their homework. This user is a newbie (check his contributions), dont bite by deleting the article he started. I saved the wiki source for the article, should you decide to delete it, I will restore it per WP:IAR. ackoz 22:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment upon which the article will be deleted for being a recreation when consensus favoured deletion. Jammo (SM247) 04:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment We are not biting because the creator is a newbie - we are biting because this is a nonsense. WP is an encyclopaedia for important, verifiable facts not as a proving ground for students to create new holidays. BlueValour 23:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Blatant ignorance? Right, OK. In fact, the more I read the article, specially after some expansions made by the creator, the more I stand by my argument. I strongly agree with Jammo (SM247) (see below) that this is a classic textbook example of WP is not for things made up in school one day. Maybe instead of keeping this article just to make a "newbie" happy we should just talk to the new user about the WP guidlines for creating articles and coach him/her into making better ones. I think THAT's the best way to improve wikipedia. But I don't know, I guess I'm just a blatant ignorant. Mtmelendez 14:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep I agree with Robbie —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Korialstrasz (talk • contribs).

• Delete or merge - Non-notable, original research, vanity page. I know things like this are common, but this single event by itself is not notable or encyclopedic at the moment. In addition, wikipedia is not the place for original research or publication. Perhaps if it were referenced from a verifiable source then there might be something here. Otherwise, if there is an existing article on similar event trends, it could be merged. Also, Ackoz- do not cross out other people votes, they are votes and you should not retract them because you think their points are not valid. Falls End (T, C) 22:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
  • It is clear that these arguments are not valid, stating that in your humble whatever the students should spend the holiday writing is not an argument about the article. I crossed out the votes because the editor of the article is new, instead of welcoming him to wikipedia and educating him on the rules about notability, these fellow editors just bite and add stupid comments about students to their arguments, presuming that the editor is a student himself. I concluded, that it will better serve wikipedia, if I cross out those votes and welcome Robbie on WP than anything else.I acted according to WP:IAR. ackoz 23:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Great, another brilliant person waving WP:IAR around as if its an all-powerful excuse for anarchy which justifies whatever the person wants to do regardless of the wikipedia community. Ackoz, please re-read WP:IAR carefully and note especially the part about improving and maintaining the quality of Wikipedia (i.e. as an encyclopedia, since that is wikipedia's crucial purpose) - this of course includes the correct functioning of the afd nomination process. So by crossing out votes, Ackoz is not acting according even to WP:IAR, but he's crossing over into vandalism Bwithh 23:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Brilliant? Sarcasm? WP:NPA you sticka-to-z-rools :) My actions met the WP:IAR criteria because one of the most crucial issue for WP are the editors, and if you bite any newbie who tries to create any nonsense article here because you feel superior for being an "xperienced editor", it's wrong. Instead of your "messing around apart from the first sentence", you should have put the efforts on that user's talkpage. Be kind. ackoz 06:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete despite ackoz's insistent dissent, there is no notability asserted, and the facts asserted are not verified or sources provided. How can a 50+ only production run of DVDs raise the profile of this event sufficiently for it to deserve its own page? If and when this does happen, it can be recreated. As at the moment, this is a localised and non-notable school ritual that does not belong here. More people got on my train this morning than have attended this event in its existence by the admission of the editors, but I don't create the page Travelling from Nerang to Robina Station on QR CityTrain service UG06 every morning, do I? For it is as equally a non-notable event. I earnestly wish you every success in promoting your event, but come back when you have succeeded. Read this in the meantime. Jammo (SM247) 23:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per almost everyone above who also voted delete, specifically Mtmelendez and Jammo. Among other rules and notability guidelines, WP:NFT certainly applies here. -- Kicking222 00:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - WP:NFT, and everyone else has summed it up pretty well. --DennyCrane Talk 02:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
• Cremate, I mean Delete. No notability asserted, not a "holiday" even if the article were otherwise correct. One of the best examples of WP:NFT that I've seen. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:49, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.