Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mass killings

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete all. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-02-17 21:40Z

[edit] Mass killings, Nerissa strong, Carmet ellison, HIDDEN

Mass killings (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Nerissa strong (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Carmet ellison (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Nominating these articles as what appears to be some sort of complex hoax. None of the claims made on any of the pages check out (a heretofore unknown daughter of Larry Ellison, who's a voice actor? A movie starring James Cameron that doesn't exist in IMDB?). Mass killings could probably make a reasonable redirect to a list of some sort, but the current article is complete bollocks. Zetawoof^(ζ) 07:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Adding HIDDEN: newly created page by the same user; more of the same. Zetawoof^(ζ) 19:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

HIDDEN (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

• Delete All A brief double checking seems to confirm the nominator's suspicions. If this is not a hoax, I would be very surprised indeed. Deranged bulbasaur 07:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Tagged Mass killings and Carmet ellison as hoaxes, didn't tag Nerissa strong on the basis of some trivial google hits (a press release from a local source and some myspace stuff). I think Nerissa strong fails on A7 since it doesn't assert notability aside from some apparantly non-notable musical works. I'm tagging that one for speedy. Deranged bulbasaur 07:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

As written, Nerissa strong has a material claim of notability (two albums). They don't appear to exist, but that's (unfortunately!) not a speedy criterion. Hence, I've removed the speedy tag. The AFD will do. Zetawoof^(ζ) 08:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

As an aside, I don't think that strict interpretation of the CSD is serviceable. By my estimation from patrolling new articles, we get about 50 every day where the entire content is "I'm Pricilla Bittlesworth and I'm the sexiest and most talented person in TEH WORLD." They invariably get delted on A7 grounds (or A1 if they're truly trivial), regardless of the fact that that's most certainly a claim of notability (the person would be notable if it were true). If the view were taken that any claim of notability, no matter how easily disproven or how unvarifiable, exempts an article from A7 then this Afd process would be substantially and unduly emburdened. Deranged bulbasaur 11:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Created and mostly edited by Carmet, they therefore fail WP:COI. I have no need to investigate whether they are hoaxes or not as I do not reach that issue. --Selket ^Talk 08:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
• Comment, Mass killings could be a redirect to Mass murder. So my vote is redirect, but only for that one. Mathmo ^Talk 11:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

That's a potentially POV redirect. "Killing" and "murder" have very different connotative meanings. Say, for example, that someone's looking for a mass killing of livestock in response to a BSE scare, and gets redirected to Mass murder... Deranged bulbasaur 02:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

True true, that is a very good point. Then again most readers probably wouldn't understand the subtly of the POV? Guess it can still be found through searching of mass killings, even though Mass murder is a fairly long way down the results list. Mathmo ^Talk 12:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

The singular form is a redirect, makes sense for us to make the plural form a redirect too. Oh, the other ones up for deletion should be deleted though. Mathmo ^Talk 12:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Inkpaduta 22:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete All No sources--Sefringle 05:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.