Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Morgans Hotel Group

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The result of the nomination was nomination withdrawn. Mailer Diablo 04:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Morgans Hotel Group

Non notable hotel group. Fails WP:CORP and is most likely spam. The creator's only edits (see Plin) are all about hotels or hotel groups and the user has been warned twice for spam. Pascal.Tesson 14:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC) I stand corrected. I got blinded by the spam hunt and retract this nomination. Pascal.Tesson 02:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Ste4k 20:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, gummy bears, and cheese. Zos 23:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
• Very strong keep This is not an average hotel group of its size (and anyway a company that operates 2,500 luxury rooms in some of the world's most expensive cities is not that small). Morgans Hotel is a key hotel in the history of the industry, as is stated in Wikpedia's own boutique hotel article, and the St Martins Lane Hotel, which should certainly have an article, is the most important minimalist hotel in London. New York and London are rather important trend setting cities. Cloachland 03:57, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This is a trendsetting and fast growing company associated with two of the leading designers in the world. It listed on NASDAQ in February and just bought the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas for $770 million. Carina22 06:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. No notability stated or implied, or documented, in article. Parenthetically note that both Carina22 and Cloachland apparently contributed to this article. Tychocat 14:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I contributed to it after I found this ill-advised nomination. If you don't think that the statement about its role in the creation of the boutique hotel is a statement on notability, you are not qualified to comment on any hotel related article. Cloachland 02:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I made three statements in my nomination, two of which were to do with my recommendation and my grounds for making said recommendation. The third statement was the merest point of fact, that you and Carina22 had contributed to the article. I made no characterizations, nor did I speculate as to what was written or why. Nor do I make any representation of expertise in hotel chains. I am, however, reasonably conversant in WP policies, and please let us confine our discussions in this light. Tychocat 02:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Wrote Cloachland when I meant Carina22. Sorry for the additional edit. Tychocat 02:40, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep It is an important company in its industry. Too often Wikipedia seems to prefer things that are important to adolescents to things that are important in the adult world. Chicheley 03:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong/Speedy keep over 400,000 hits on google. I think the nominator should do at least a small amount of research before nominating an article, even if it created by a known spammer. This nomination and the Hawthorn Suites nomination sadden me. This article should be listed as a stub/cleanup, not AFD. Royalbroil 04:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Followup There is an article from hotels.com/New York Times that talk about the chains purchase of the Hard Rock in Las Vegas ([1], and thestreet.com talked about the founder leaving the company [2]. The two combine to meet criteria 1 of WP:CORP. Also, the chain is listed on the NASDAQ index (as MHGC) - which meets criteria 3 of WP:CORP. Royalbroil 17:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep. While small, this company is notable for the hotels it owns. Vegaswikian 00:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.