Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Noise Metal

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus; default keep. Johnleemk | Talk 09:52, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Noise Metal

Delete this metal pseudo subgenre. This article basicaly describes the band Mastodon, which already has an article. Spearhead 12:30, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. It seems to be used by some people, but it is hard to say how many exactly. It gets 23,000 Google hits, but most of them are things like "noise: metal" (when will Google notice that colons change the meaning of an expression?). AMG does not use "noise metal" in its Mastodon article. Finally Open Directory has no category for that. Heavy metal is famous for its many short-lived subgenres, which seem to come and go at the critics' taste. Let's wait more before having an article for this one. JoaoRicardo 07:07, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per Spearhead. Stifle 14:43, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Deleting this would create one of the only red links in List of heavy metal genres. I also note that the nom redirected the article without discussion, then nominated for AfD when the redirect was reverted. -- JJay 17:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

There are other red links/not linked genres on that list. Second this seems only to refer to Mastodon and lists a whole bunch of red links otherwise... Apparently not a notalbe genre, and if Mastodon uses it themselves, it can be mentioned in their page (which I did add to that page btw). A good reason nevertheless to delete or redirect is is the article state "There aren't many noise metal bands" Spearhead 18:52, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

• • JJay, I don't quite understand your point. If this is deemed not to be noteworthy, can't we simply delete its reference on that list? JoaoRicardo 19:03, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Guys please check List of heavy metal genres again. This is a great and long list with only two redlinks as far as I can see. Why create more? Furthermore, there is an entire paragraph on Noise Metal in that list. Deleting that info is a matter for discussion with the editors of the list. Also, if Noise Metal exists as a genre, and even if Mastodon is the only Noise Metal band (not that I believe that), then it deserves an article. -- JJay 19:20, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
      • Hum, I see what you mean now. Sorry. I thought it was a real list, with nothing but a sequence of genre names, when it actually provides a small description for each. I've left a note on its talk page asking people to join the discussion here. JoaoRicardo ^talk 19:35, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
    • That's cool. If the editors of that list (who know much more about heavy metal than me) decide that Noise Metal shouldn't be there, then I would probably vote delete here. But if the genre does exist, then I don't think the article really hurts anyone. Maybe you should switch your vote to abstain or keep, in the interim. -- JJay 19:45, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
      • FYI I actually am an editor of many metal related articles and I have been trying to clean many pseudo metal subgenres. Also not that the list it is on says "These genres are not generally acknowledged as metal genres" Spearhead 19:49, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
        • Spearhead, I have noticed you are an editor there as well, and I don't mean to say you know nothing about this. I just think that more heavy metal editors would provide a better discussion. JoaoRicardo ^talk 19:56, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.