Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winter of Apokalypse

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was No consensus, so keep. --Deathphoenix 02:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Winter of Apokalypse

• Delete: Non-notable band. Only released one full-length CD instead of the two required to satisfy to WP:BAND. Allmusic.com and Amazon have only the one album. —Wknight94 (talk) 03:31, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: Article attempts to assert the band's notability or else I would have speedied. —Wknight94 (talk) 03:31, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep if former member Lustmord is the one-and-only Lustmord, but delete if its another Lustmord. Ruby 04:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: This is one of a zillion little black metal bands that got started in 1999. Lustmord has been doing electronic music since the early 80s. I'm guessing the chances of them being related is about 1% (unless Lustmord is one of this band's members' father). Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. —Wknight94 (talk) 05:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Thy Infernal + Winter of Apokalypse = WP:MUSIC. --Rob 05:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: I assume you're referring to Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise extremely notable. Note the phrase "extremely notable". Thy Infernal is extremely notable?! I don't think Thy Infernal would even survive Afd so how can they be extremely notable? They don't even have an article here or else maybe I'd vote to redirect there. Actually, I would vote Weak Delete on Thy Infernal and Winter of Apokalypse combined. —Wknight94 (talk) 05:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
    • I see the two together as one topic. I wouldn't make a stand-alone article on either band alone. I think one band name, should redirect to the other (e.g. old band, to this new band name). The phrase "extremely notable", in context, is necessary if you want *separate* artices for each band/group/person (as opposed to a merge). Combined they are a keep. --Rob 05:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
      • So really you don't vote to Keep. Proposal: if you create a decent Thy Infernal page, then we can both change our votes to Merge to Thy Infernal. —Wknight94 (talk) 11:57, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
        • Why would you merge to the older band. I never said Thy Infernal was more notable. I said, that combined, they are collectively sufficiently notable. Given the current name is Winter of Apokalypse, that's probably where info on both belongs. Thy Infernal is now a redirect. Also, I've been able to add a few links, but it will take a person much more knowledgeable of this "music scene" to write substantial content (My next expansion of a musicians article will be for a pop star, not "black metal"). Even though I think the article meets the WP:MUSIC guidelines, I won't mind if it gets deleted. --Rob 14:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
          • I'm just doing math - Thy Infernal released two full lengths (in fact, I've even heard one of them) and this band has only one. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletions. -- Rob 05:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete {{nn-band}} Stifle 16:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
  • This is not a speedy at all. The CD release, plus former members of a prior band, which may together qualify as WP:MUSIC is sufficient to consider this matter, without a speedy. Speedies are for cases where something is likely unconested (outsite of original creator). --Rob 16:18, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or merge per Rob. Kappa 16:36, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.