Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yurdanur Salman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. Cbrown1023 talk 15:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yurdanur Salman

Yurdanur_Salman (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) -- (View AfD)

• Delete not notable, same author as Mehmet Murat İldan. --Wiendietry 12:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete after hesitating. There is only a stub on tr:Yurdanur Salman, that was created by Muratildan himself. It hasn't been amended or corrected by any turkish contributor, thus I have clear doubts about her notoriety in Turkey. There are few Google hits, and it looks like Mural Ildan has created her article here more to promote or jutify that he's famous (and has his books translated in english, info for a possibly interested editor). My vote here is not final, I will review it in a few days if some more info comes. Clem23 21:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 12:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

• weak keep note the link is acctually hereseems to establish she definitely works as translator, dunno if they're notable just for several translations tho.  ⇒ bsnowball  08:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - Tough one. First of all she is not the same person as Ildan, let me clear that. She is a well-known professor of Bogazici University, one of the best universities in Turkey. She is also a translation guru, one of the best translators this country has ever seen (imho, of course). She is far more famous than Mehmet Murat İldan, that i can say without hesitation. But, i don't see translation works and academic career as a sign of notability. Because of that i'm for deleting this article, although i voted "Keep" for İldan, the self-promoting one. I know it's not fair, but what is?--Vito Genovese 18:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Thanks very much for your info. This whole case turns to be impossible to understand. Your comments would make shift my vote to weak delete, and stronger delete for Ildan, because he clearly violates the wikipedia principles, not considering the specific criteria. But I wonder if anybody still understands something about all that case now... Clem23 12:35, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Delete as well as all articles by this vanity author. Prittglue 12:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
• COMMENTI am sad to see that the above people, excluding Vito Genovese, do not know anything about Turkey. Yurdanur Salman is a very important translator! She has translated several important books. Now see the sites one by one. Book Anthology in this site she has 18 books listed! You know nothing about her!..
  She has translated Salman Rüshdi, did you know that? İmge Bookstore NetBook Store She has translated John Berger. Do you know John Berger? She has at least 25 books translated. Can you understand the importance of this?.. My dear friends, you can never ignore her big works! I am sad to see the above childish comments on her... Please don't talk about the issues which ypu have no knowledge at all. She is a good published translator and no one can dare to prove the opposite!.. I am really disappointed to see the ignorant comments on her. Tagorgora —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.224.26.122 (talk) 23:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC).
• Keep. Though this biography about her has been used as at part of Ildans selfpromoting spam, she should not be deleted just to get even, she seems to have her own reputation. --Orland 15:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, TigerShark 14:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. -- Pete.Hurd 15:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unless sourced and referenced i.a.w. WP:BIO by end of this AfD Alf photoman 19:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. She is a notable academic in her field. In addition to the turkish translation source above, WorldCat shows 36 results. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jayvdb (talk • contribs) 21:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC).
• Keep - Noted academic in her field and in Turkey. At most this needs a cleanup or cites-needed tag. --lquilter 04:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Consider WP:PROF. No awards, no independent sources attesting her notability, no broad body of publications. Mr.K. (talk) 21:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Find sources: books, news, scholar Addhoc 18:54, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

• Not very impressive, I must say. Mr.K. (talk) 22:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

• Weak delete unless sourced per above searches that confirm existence, but don't provide multiple, non-trivial sources. Addhoc 18:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.