Talk:Asexuality
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[edit] Famous alleged asexuals
There ought to be a foot-note, citing a suitable reference, for each and every person included on this list, if the list is to be here at all. —SlamDiego 04:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
The list should be removed - I think it causes people to ignore all the factual information in the article, and unless these people have specifically came out and said, "I am asexual" no one can say that they are/were. They could very easily just be people with sexual adversion disorder, or closeted homosexuals, etc.
[edit] LGBT
Asexual is not LGBT, Dev, but it is LGBTA, a change that is occuring on many college campuses. Like lesbian, gay, and bisexual, asexual is a sexual minority. The classification in this category is correct, though wiki should add an A on the category as that is the current trend today. — Clippen (talk • contribs) 01:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Asexual does not mean celibate
I believe that there should be a distinction.
Asexuality is a general disdain for sexuality whereas a celibate person may have desires for the opposite (or same) sex but choses a sex-free life either for religious or other purposes. For this reason I do not thing that Todd Fuller should be included on this list. Piercetp 21:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Variations
I fixed the miscount in the variations sections - someone had set it to three, instead of four
Lack sex drive, but have romantic attraction Lack sex drive and lack romantic attraction Lack romantic attraction, but have sex drive Have sex drive and romantic attraction
[edit] Asexuality in fiction
A small point, but I'd like to bring it up. The article says
- Another character, Shigeru Aoba, is strongly implied to be asexual in The End of Evangelion.
Firstly, 'strongly implied' is an unqualified statement, without any sources, so is just someone's opinion. Furthermore, looking at the Shigeru Aoba article itself, it doesn't mention anything about sexuality, only about unwillingness to trust anyone enough to 'open up'.
Similarly, many of the examples of asexuality in fiction seemed to be mislabelled, or at least without sources. Just because Doctor Who and Jughead Jones don't get romantic subplots doesn't mean that they are asexual. The list includes some real examples of asexuality in fiction, so I don't agree that these other ones should be there.
However, I'm a n00b at wikipedia, and I don't want to just hack through the list. What do other people think? Crispypercy 22:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Also, I've followed some links: there is no mention of asexuality on the pages of Immanuel Kant and Emily Bronte, and those were the first two I clicked. The whole section is completely unsourced.Crispypercy 22:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- OK, finished checking the list. The only articles referencing asexuality were The Shivers (band), Edward Gorey, Erik Satie, Morrissey and Alberto Santos-Dumont. The rest may as well be all made up, as far as I can tell.Crispypercy 22:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and edit those names out according to what you looked up (and I double checked) and see what happens. 155.68.101.139 02:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)Matt
[edit] Celebacy in Christianity
I added the reference to the Apostle Paul some time ago, but it has since been reformatteded and might not make a lot of sense where it is now.
In Biblical theology, there is really only two paths someone can take: marriage which required intercouse between the couple (with the exception of health issues or temporary religious obligations), or singleness which requires celebacy from the person. There is no other route. To be married and to withold conjugal and procreative responsibilities is sinful (Exo 21:10, 1Co 7:5, Heb 13:4, et al.). To be single and to engage in intercouse is also sinful (Act 15:20, Act 15:29, 1Co 6:9).
So it boils down to it being entirely right and even commendable to be single and celebate (1Co 7:8) or to be married and fruitful (see above); just not one or the other. The Apostle Paul, who by inspiration of the Holy Spirit penned 2/3 of the New Testament, led a celebate life.
The Bible and most theologians do not get into the issue of a biological origin for asexuality. It may or may not exist, but it is largely immaterial based upon the Biblical modes of life explained above. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.191.17.168 (talk) 17:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Why was Hitler excluded from this list?
All biographies I read concerning the Nazi leader states that he probibly died a virgin. It was said by those close to him that he had no interest in sex. If he did he probibly did not pursue any relationships. His relationship to his mistress Eva Braun was believed to be sexless. Piercetp 06:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
One thing that worries me about this page is that it seems to have been edited only by individuals with some personal (and therefore biased) interest in an article on "asexuality". As it stands, it doesn't quite seem to be non-NPOV, but it is still highly suggestive, using vague phrases such as "some people". Fuzzform 03:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm moving the neutrality header to the top of the page (out of the section on religious asexuality) because the entire page needs a NPOV overhaul. Please discuss any objections/changes on this page before removing it. Fuzzform 03:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] ABCD Classification
The page describes Type C's as asexuals who experience neither and doesn't mention Type D. Usually Type C is the type that doesn't see their sex drive and attraction as linked, and Type D experiences neither. Is the page using a different classification system? Agent KGB 22:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
