Talk:Avant Browser
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Gboy, why are you marking all the changes to the article as minor? -- Pakaran 05:27, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)
- Probably an honest mistake... and I just started using Avant Browser, it's actually better than Opera (in my humble opinion)... interesting. ugen64 19:24, Jan 25, 2004 (UTC)
Nice violation of the licence here :) http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Avant%20Browser They forgot to tell it was taken from wikipedia, they are so dumb they kept the picture :P Sorry it is written at the bottom in small letters that it is taken from wikipedia.
jul 23:32, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Taken from Avant's Site
I'm no expert on Wikipedia protocol, which is why I'm doing this editing myself, but shouldn't some note be added when an article's contents are ripped straight from a site? In this case, the entire article was pasted from the Avant site's frontpage... flip 04:49, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)
- You're right. I removed the entire "Top 10 Reasons to use Avant Browser", which basically just looked like advertisement anyway. I couldn't find the text at the top anywhere on the site, but maybe I was just not looking hard enough. That part in the quotes seems ... quoted, though, but I didn't want to remove anything I wasn't sure of. None of us are experts on Wikipedia protocol, mind, so be bold :) --Spug 01:06, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Yes, the Features part was not NPOV so I deleted it again. -- Sander 14:40, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Hey, Sander :) Brandeks has been readding the text every time I removed it. I left him a notice at his talk page, but he replied on mine, saying that he would not stop reverting my changes "Because they are features of Avant Browser, and therefore should be in the Wikipedia article". I asked him to consult this talk page. Alternatively, he can write his own, NPOV version of the feature list (or one of us could). --Spug 17:37, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Yes, the Features part was not NPOV so I deleted it again. -- Sander 14:40, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
An open apology to Anarion and Spug:
Over the weekend I've thought about the AB edit-war we were having. I'd even talked with someone I knew about it. After all that, I have come to a conclusion: you were right, and I was wrong. Yes, I was willing to keep doing what I had been doing simply because I thought I was right in adding back what had been deleted, simply because I didn't truly get what "advertising" in regards to NPOV meant. I figured it is a free browser, so what did it matter? Now I understand that Wikipedia is supposed to be NPOV completely, and the way things were written before could be construed as favoring AB over say Firefox or IE... and therefore wasn't as NPOV as I thought. So - no hard feelings? --Brand Eks 01:04, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I've unprotected the page. It appears that the dispute has been settled. dbenbenn | talk 05:15, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Link to my own Avant resource site
I'm adding a link here to a page where I'm maintaining a list of resources for Avant users. The page also has a comment on why I prefer Avant to Firefox personally, so it isn't NPOV - but of course it isn't pretending to be. Am I right in thinking this is okay?
(The link, for reference: http://myhome.iolfree.ie/~lightbulb/Avant/AvantIndex.html) (The link is no longer working)
I will also add NPVO information to the article.
Sergeirichard 23:59, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Only 4 web browsers in real world?
I'll tell you what. some say there are only 4 web browsers in real world, which are
IE, Firefox, Opera, Konqueror.
they say, this 4 only use their own rendering engine for now,
So, Nescape/Safari/Avant browser/Maxthon/Slim browser or anything are not the
original or real web browser.
What do you think?
I think you forget lynx.
- Basically, a browser is anything that lets you access the World Wide Web and lets you view its content. Therefore, everything you mentioned (and Lynx, and a lot of others too) are browsers. --Aeon17x 16:00, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- FireFox (or even Phoenix/FireBird or Mozilla Suite) was hardly the first gecko based browser. How much the engine evolved between Netscape 4.x and Netscape 6.0 is another issue. Then again , one might argue that there is only one browser , NCSA Mosaic. Not counting the gopher clients that added support for HTML rendering. While http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_layout_engines list more than 4 engines (with some duplicates), even it is incomplete, missing browsers used on Atari , Amiga, C64 and many others. 193.229.159.16 16:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fifth on Google
Ahead of Internet Explorer itself! Does anyone actually use Avant? Artbristol 01:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- I have been using AvantBrowser for over two years now. I personally believe it to be better than FireFox and the "stand alone" IE. I always considered AvantBrowser a sort of "power tool" for IE users.
[edit] Avant and Advanced
Is there any connection between Avant Browser and Advanced Browser? I noticed a while ago that they are more or less the same. --JD[don't talk|email] 04:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- "Advanced Browser" is apparently an earlier version of Avant rebranded by the developer for a private client, and so is no longer in development.Sergeirichard
[edit] Lack of Notability?
In keeping with Wikipedia's web content notability guidelines I removed the tags for deletion. I added two extra external links to ensure that notability requirements are met. It does need some cleanup though.
[edit] Substantial Revision
I've taken the liberty of removing the "advertisment" notice as I've made changes which I hope leave this article far more informative and balanced. As a longtime user of the browser and a moderator of its users' forum I can't lay claim to a complete detachment, but I have an informed view and I've done my best to describe cons as well as pros and include common user criticisms. I think this compares well to some other articles on browsers...
I've only updated the introductory and "Development and History" sections; the section on Features is still incomplete and somewhat outdated.
Sergeirichard 06:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- The revision is a major improvement. It no longer looks like an advertisment. (I was going to make some tweaks I thought were need but I noticed that you seem to be in the middle of more editing so I will hold off tweaking and commenting until you have finished)
- Jojas 11:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks. Woah, I'm tired now...Sergeirichard 00:26, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- I made a few tweaks to the history & development, and v11 sections. I considered making the section on v11 and info on Orca subsections of History and Development but decided against it, at least for now.--Jojas 19:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
The new features section is an improvement and looks much tidier. However, the list format does take up a lot of space so I think so compacting would help. I've tried compacting one list (features that can be blocked) but I'm not sure it looks quite right. Something else to consider it that many of the features that made Avant different from IE when it first came out, tabbed browsing, popup et al blocking, url aliases, quick searches, skinning, groups, rss reading etc, are now common or even almost standard in most browsers, even IE has some of them. It might be helpful, possibly in an overview of features, to point out those that are more unusual or unique to Avant.
Jojas 19:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- I tend towards vertical lists on web pages, so as to avoid wrapping within a list (or worse, side-scrolling) on small screen devices. What you did there does look tidy though.
- Just corrected the part about the USB version. For some reason it can't access the online storage. (I'll be requesting the feature!)
Sergeirichard 19:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
