Talk:Banat Bulgarians
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[edit] Perna
- Hungarian (perna, "feather pillow")
There's no word "perna" in Hungarian, it's párna (read /parno/), probably the word was borrowed from Romanian perna (read /perna/). bogdan 22:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Is the Romanian word a loan from Hungarian? If so, then we could say it's from Hungarian through Romanian which would be the most comprehensible and neutral way to clear things out. Or, in this case, we should simply find another Hungarian borrowing because of the contect :)
→ Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 11:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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- The dictionary says that the Romanian word is from Serbian "perina". bogdan 12:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Non-Banat Bulgarians in Romania?
Why does the 'Bulgarians' link in the ethnic minority box lead only to the Banat Bulgarians? AFAIK, there are sizable communities around Bucharest and in Northern Dobrudja who are Eastern Orthodox (unlike the Banat Bulgarians who are Catholic)? --Vladko 19:34, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- AFAIK, they can hardly be called sizable today. Not those in Northern Dobruja and especially not those around Bucharest. They were gradually assimilated, while those in Northern Dobruja had to move in 1940, and there are only around 2,000 apart from the Banat Bulgarians, possibly less than half of which are part of the traditional minority.
- According to the official data some Romanian Wikipedians provided (I was also quite curious about our minority in Romania some months ago), there are 135 self-identifying Bulgarians in Northern Dobruja, 27 in Ilfov County (around Bucharest) and 12 native Bulgarian speakers, and 370 Bulgarians and 301 native speakers in Bucharest itself, most of which IMO not a traditional population. Todor→Bozhinov 20:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Broken link
I'm new at wiki so don't know if this is the right place to put this, but the link:
http://www.proetnica.ro/en/bulgarii.html
is broken. Martha 18:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- It is pretty much the right place, yes. I at least can still open the link though, so perhaps more people should check? Todor→Bozhinov 18:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The name
Instead of edit warring, you could have discussed the issue on the talk page. As the main contributor to the article, my opinion is clear: standard Bulgarian Cyrillic is definitely relevant and removing it is a silly remnant from the attempts at the Banat Bulgarians' assimilation in the 19th and 20th century. The Banat Bulgarian dialect is just another written standard of the Bulgarian language, and the spelling in standard Bulgarian just can't possibly be omitted — this is called erasing history. That said, do we even have to mention the fact that the Banat Bulgarians in Bulgaria do use Cyrillic?
Regarding "Moldovan is a literary language based on the Cyrillic script", I have no intention to tolerate such trolling and such statements definitely make me suspicious of your edits to this article.
For me, this case is closed, and I will instantly revert any further attempts to erase the name in Cyrillic. Todor→Bozhinov 17:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Population
I removed according to one study, official census is enough I assume some feedback please. Lakers 20:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, I reverted. Census is certainly not enough, and I don't think information like such studies can ever be useless. At least when I write articles about ethnic or ethnographic groups, I try to include different sources regarding the population, as self-identification in a census can't always provide correct data, particularly in the context of Southeastern Europe. E.g. see Greeks in Bulgaria, Armenians in Bulgaria for some major differences between census data and claims. Todor→Bozhinov 21:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thats fine thanks. Lakers 22:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)