Talk:Bareback

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I am not sure why this particular definition continuously gets reverted to a rather narrow-minded definition. While it may be true that "bareback" originated in gay slang, the word has always meant "penile copulation without a condom," and doesn't specify oral, anal or vaginal. I would like to see some discussion on this instead of constant reverts that narrowly define the phrase. --Julien --Julien Deveraux 8 July 2005 08:31 (UTC)

Interesting you reverted before writing this. The definition is in no way stigmatising, and just so you know I've reverted your recent change as incorrect. Bareback has never meant unprotected oral sex, and it's primary and most common usage is still, as always, to refer to unprotected anal intercourse between men. I have serious doubts that it's used at all in other contexts, but notice that the definition doesn't exclude other meanings. Exploding Boy July 8, 2005 19:28 (UTC)

What's the significance of reverting BEFORE writing this? I simply didn't feel the revert summary was long enough to say what I had to say. I'm reverting again, and I think maybe we should submit this as a dispute; your definition is stigmatising and if you provide an email address, I can send you several links in which the word is used in heterosexual situations--again, the word simply means not wearing a condom. Maybe we have a generation gap, mr. "boy". --Julien Deveraux 9 July 2005 03:20 (UTC)

Please provide these links here. Thanks Hipocrite 15:33, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, please submit this as a dispute. Exploding Boy July 9, 2005 03:48 (UTC)

I just reverted what appeared to be a test edit by 152.163.100.133. If you're a new user, welcome to Wikipedia. The best place for experimental edits is the sandbox. Unrelated, AFAIK, to the dispute above. LisaCarrol 06:44, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

This is really starting to get old. Can we please STOP the constant reverts?? Please review the Wikipedia policy on this before doing it again. Barebacking is the act of fucking without a condom; period. No ifs and s or but(t)s WHY IS THIS SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND????--Julien Deveraux 06:22, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Because, Julien, you're wrong. Barebacking is unprotected anal sex, usually among gay men. Exploding Boy 20:07, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

I've created a request for comment on this subject. Exploding Boy 21:11, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

• I came here from seeing the RFC. What a silly dispute. Ask any prostitute, male or female, what a BBJB is. bareback blowjob. Bareback is a penis without a condom in ANY situation where safe sex would be warranted. SchmuckyTheCat 18:24, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you Schmucky, I appreciate the back-up. Exploding boy, I've been to many other sites that you've edited and have found that you seemed to have a reputation and a history of being overly authoritative on a lot of subjects. We argued about this before and you had stopped reverting when we agreed to submit it as a dispute, why did you continue reverting again--Julien Deveraux 21:28, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Was it ever submitted as a dispute? I wasn't aware of it if it was. And I might ask you the same question. Anyway, it's been submitted now. Exploding Boy 23:51, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

I added the dispute template; and I used the NPOV one specifically because certain parties keep trying to only attribute this practice to gay men. The latest edit seems to be the most neutral language I could think of. --Julien Deveraux 01:05, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Really it should be a factual accuracy template. Exploding Boy 01:11, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Really, it should be neither. This is a dab page. If there is a POV being presented that isn't neutral please explain what it is. If there is a factual accuracy problem, please explain what it is. Since "bareback" isn't a homo or hetero term, I don't see a POV being presented in the current form, nor a factual inaccuracy. SchmuckyTheCat 01:56, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Schmukcy, the reason you dont see this argument is because I continue to revert ExplodingBoy's changes. He contends that the term is relegated to the gay community and I contend that it is no longer only relegated to us. To me, that is a POV dispute. I will add it back in. Thanks --Julien Deveraux 01:27, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm a little tired of Shmucky reverting changes to this page, which is currenlty disputed. Why should your changes stand? Why do you not "join us in talk"? Exploding Boy 22:42, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

• What is there to dispute? Google search the term "bareback" and you find hundreds of references to sex that is non-gay and non-anal. It's a dab page, a simple dic def that points to the main article. A dic-def that only says gay and anal is an incorrect one. Geepers. SchmuckyTheCat 23:00, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

It's gay fucking. It has the word "back" in it for a reason.horseboy 09:26, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

While I heartily agree with horseboy, congratulations to Hipocrite for an excellent compromise. I propose that we leave it as it is. Exploding Boy 17:24, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] reverts

User:veryblueboy keeps reverting this dab page to say the sexual term is only gay, only anal. This issue went to RfC a year ago, which most of the talk being on Talk:Barebacking. It's been decided by the community that this is not a term that is gay only, anal only. SchmuckyTheCat 17:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Schmucky is lying horseboy 12:59, 23 March 2006 (UTC)