Talk:Battle of Stamford Bridge
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[edit] Source of Harold quote
Anonymous user, what is the source of the quote? From which historicial record or chronicler did it originate, and what date? Quotational dialouges from the 11th century are rare, and this one reads like fiction. My guess is it is later embelishment that has turned into popular legend. I may be wrong, but without attribution, it needs to be verified. We also have an ongoing problem with anonymous users intentionally inserting false information as a game. Please do not revert a 3rd time without addressing the source of the quote. Thanks!! Stbalbach 15:57, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
It's probably a popularized & garbled version of this passage from Heimskringla[1]
- The earl replies, "This is something different from the enmity and scorn he offered last winter; and if this had been offered then it would have saved many a man's life who now is dead, and it would have been better for the kingdom of England. But if I accept of this offer, what will he give King Harald Sigurdson for his trouble?"
- The horseman replied, "He has also spoken of this; and will give him seven feet of English ground, or as much more as he may be taller than other men."
It's a fairly well known quote I think, so it perhaps deserve mention on that accord Fornadan 23:46, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
In the proper context that it is 1) from a Norse saga 2) a secondary source 100s of years after the fact. The "moral of the story" gives it a mythological feel, than of a neutral historical account of what actually happened or was said. Stbalbach 01:04, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You guys can still put it in, you just need to mention that it existed only in Snorri's imagination. Augustulus 01:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Source of naked and bathing information
What is the source of the "naked and bathing, ..." information. This sounds like fictional detail and is not present in the sources I have checked (Jones, History of the Vikings, Stenton, Anglo-Saxon England, etc). Snorri in his historical fiction has the Norwegian army moving toward Stamford Bridge when they sight the English army and makes no mention of the although he does say the Norwegians were without their Byrnies, bringing only helmets, shields, spears and swords. If (when) this information is restored, please include source information. Thanks. WPB
