Talk:Billiard ball

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Contents 1 Canada uses different colors? 2 Australian terms 3 Snooker 4 Merger 5 Please review: Consensus and consistency needed on spelling to prevent ambiguity & confusion 6 Phenolic resin 7 Sphere

[edit] Canada uses different colors?

True or false: This color system of Billiard balls is the one used in the United States, but Canada has its own color system (e.g. it might have 3=yellow although the United States has 1=yellow). 66.32.95.37 18:25, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

I just came from a year and a half in Canada, and aside from a Canadian company producing coin-op tables that are fairly common over there (and, with real wood, look much nicer than the Dynamo and Valley ones we see in the US, which are also dominant in Canada), they use the same equipment the US and just about everyone else does. See saluc.com - there is no Canadian pool set. For pool, they have the "American-style" (intl. standard) set, and the WEPF/Blackball "English style" without numbers; they are THE major manufacturer, by a very wide margin (even Elephant doesn't come close, though they've been featured in a tournament or two). — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Australian terms

I think the part on the Australian terminology is ambiguous/unclear. Can someone reword this for clarity?Oreo Priest 05:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

That segment no longer appears to exist; I would suspect that all of it has been merged into the Glossary of pool, billiards and snooker terms. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Snooker

In the UK and Ireland, I have often heard the balls used in snooker referred to as billiard balls. I don't know about US usage, but I'd like to add a definition to the start of this article saying that billiard balls in general can refer to the balls used in any of the various forms of billiards. RMoloney 13:36, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

They are also slightly smaller and may weigh more that pool balls. 128.6.176.51 19:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

The article definitely addresses snooker balls now in sufficient detail for this article and links to the main article on the topic for more depth. Marking topic "Resolved".— SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger

I think there should be a merger between the Cue ball article to this one. 128.6.176.51 19:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

No kidding! Will look into that. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please review: Consensus and consistency needed on spelling to prevent ambiguity & confusion

Especially for nine-ball but also for eight-ball, one-pocket, and even snooker, etc., I firmly think we need to come to, and as editors enforce in article texts, a consensus on spelling conventions and implement it consistently throughout all of the cue sports Wikepedia articles. I advocate (and herein attempt to justify) a system of standardized spellings, based on 1) general grammar rules; 2) basic logic; and 3) disambiguation.

This is a draft submission to the active editor community of billiards-related articles on Wikipedia. It is intended to ultimately end up being something like "[[Wikipedia:[something:]Billiards/Spelling guidelines]]", or part of an official Wikipedia cue sports article-shepherding Project, likely it's first documentation output.

Anyway, please help me think this through. The point is not for me to become world famous™ for having finally codified billiards terms and united the entire English-speaking world in using them (hurrah). I simply want the articles here on pool and related games to be very consistent in application of some new consensus Wikipedia editing standards about spelling/phrasing of easily confusable billards terms that may be ambiguous to many readers in the absence of that standard.

Compare:

1. "While 9-ball is a 9-ball game, the 9-ball is the real target; pocket it in a 9-ball run if you have to, but earlier is better." (Huh?)
2. "While nine-ball is a nine ball game, the 9 ball is the real target; pocket it in a nine ball run if you have to, but earlier is better." (Oh, right!)

That's the super-simple "use case" I make for this proposed nomenclature. If you think that the differentiation didn't cut it please TELL ME, and say how you would improve it.

So, here's the article draft so far (please do not edit it directly! Post on its Discussion page instead; thanks.): User:SMcCandlish/Pool_terms

(PS: This intro text is repeated at the top of it.) — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 04:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Marking this topic "Resolved" as the document in question is now "live" at WP:CUESPELL and has its own talk page for any further discussion. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phenolic resin

Please do not add spammy claims to the article that only Aramith/Saluc uses phenolic resin. This is totally false, whatever claims they may make on their website. While some cheaper brands like Action do in fact use polyester, Elelphant among others also use phenolic resin (and as with Aramith, other materials in addition to phenolic resin when it comes to adding sparkles and swirls and fluorescence and so forth.) — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 19:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sphere

A sphere's "size", for any purposes relevant to this article, is its diameter, so we do not need longer-winded phrases like "size, including diameter". That will just be confusing to the reader - "what other kind of size could this mean?". — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 19:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)