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164.4.31.79 keeps adding to the "Famous Unknown Swedes Hailing from Sandviken" series. The following have been listed on WP:VfD: Martin Ahnlén (speedied), Martin Ahnlén II, Johan Nyman Niklas Modigh (speedied, so I can't remember if this seminal article was from the same actual IP, but presumably so) and most recently BjÃ¶rn helgesen a couple of hours ago. The user also vandalized Beaver and put a witticism about Niklas Modigh into Mental retardation (reverted by AndrewH). Apart from other considerations this is wasting a lot of VfD voters' time, since some of the nonsense articles and edits are patent only to Swedes (I'm one). Bishonen 19:24, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I added some other anon's IP, that is either the same person, or someone closely related to him. The behaviour is almost identical. They have been creating misleading votes on VFD pages and removed vfd headers from their own "creations". I know that there was one other user involved in the vandalism, but since the pages have been speedied I can't locate the IP. I am also a Swede, and it's embarrassing to see how these people behave&vellip; — David Remahl 19:51, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Maybe that was 164.4.31.80, David? I added him above. He created Viktor Johanson I, currently on VfD, and he edited BjÃ¶rn helgesen today (removing ref to Niklas Modigh). I know what school these kids go to, and I'm convinced they're doing this from their school workstations. (I'm composing a letter to the principal and the school's sponsor/network provider as we speak, but will not send it if they respond favorably to a warning I've left on their Talk pages.)
Sorry I forgot to sign the above. The people involved have now sworn off further vandalism, in messages to my Talk page and David's. :-) Bishonen 18:32, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Speedied contributions from Göranssonska skolan, Sandviken

BjÃ¶rn helgesen Originated by 164.4.31.79, edited by 164.4.31.80, known vandals both.

Björn Helgesen aka Bernie. One of the first students to atend Göranssonska Skolan in Sandviken. He made projekt such as "Pepparkvarnen & jag", "Bibeln".

In his early years he worked alot with his organisation "Vita Bröder" or in english "White Brothers". It was a organisation started by Bernie. There he could expresse his extreme thoughts against black people and other non white people.

Bernie is now one the most wanted people in Europe. He is believed to have commited over 100 murders in different countries in Europe. He has now went under ground to get away from the big mas of people searching for him.

Robin Karlsson Contributed by 81.227.148.223

Robin Karlsson

Hockeyspelare. Moderklubb: sandviken ik Nuvarande klubb: Valbo

Meriter:inga kända

Titlar: DM Gästrikland 1998, Stanley cup 2008 ?

Poäng:

2003: 1 mål, 1 assist, två självmål och fyra matchstraff och två mord

2004: 0 mål, 0 assist, 8 självmål (alla i samma match), en misshandel, två mordhot och ett matchstraff

Niklas Modigh

Niklas "The Man" Modigh. f. 1987 och bosatt på fel sida om järnvägen i Sandviken. Känd dagdrivare och livsnjutare. har gjort sig ett namn genom att vara den mest oambitiösa eleven på göranssonska skolan. Speciellt då i kursen Styrteknik B där han ännu inte gjort någonting för att hjälpa sina stackars medlaboranter Martin och Robin. Han är även känd för att vara Sveriges sämsta "bluffpokerspelare".

Här följer resultatet i inofficiella bluffpokermästerskapen på göranssonska.

1. Martin Ahnlén (världens bästa bluffpokrare)

2. Robin karlsson (världens sämsta hockeyspelare?)

3. Christoffer gustafsson (världens sämsta gitarrist?)

4. Dochni likmazg (???)

5. Viktor (Världens Sämsta Svenska gitarrist?)

6. Nyman (Världens sämsta alla kategorier??)

129. Niklas modigh (Värledns Sämsta bluffpokrare?)

Kända Modigh-citat utalade på karakteristisk Sandvikiska:

"Men Dö! haru schläka bromsöla ellr!"

Känt Alf Svensson-citat (uttalas med extremt pigig röst)

"Alla barn förtjänar en mamma och en pappa"

[edit] Sv.wikipedia

Här ett bidrag till sv.wikipedia 3-4 september, alltså efter att vi trodde dem skrämda till gott uppförande:

Fred flygare från, 217.210.255.223, hostname h223n2fls35o972.telia.com, som är i Gävle, antagligen en hemdator, text:

"Fred Flygare eller kallad Frejjja. Föddes 1987 i det vackra landet Sri Lanka. Flyttade i tidig ålder till Sandviken där han för tillfället bor och lever tillsammans med sin familj.

Han är känd för många saker men mest känd är han för sitt drickande. Han har Sandvikens rekord i fjortisfylla. Efter finalen emot Modigh vann han efter att ha däckat av att ha luktat på en 2.25:a."

[edit] Diffs just in case

[edit] Pcpcpc

[edit] My own contact with Pcpcpc

The following is a narrative posted to User:Radiant! on March 3, 2005.

Hi, Radiant!. I'm having some difficulty believing my eyes, they're kind of bugging out. Pcpcpc has just put my username up, in public, on his talk page, on what he calls his "ignore list", as being somebody who "engages in repeated personal attacks." Along with yours and Giano's—I'm not saying that listing you guys is any less heinous, but at least he's engaged in a current conflict with the two of you, which makes some kind of sense ... whereas the last time I spoke with the guy was on January 12! This is actually amazing, I'm feeling distinctly unnerved. It's like I'm never going to be shut of this guy and his hate.

In case you'd like to see my "personal attacks" against Pcpcpc, here they are in full. Three posts.

Me on December 31

Pcpcpc's reply

Me a little later the same day

Pcpcpc:s reply

Me on January 12

Pcpcpc's reply

That's it! That's the whole thing, I haven't spoken to him since. (At least, I'm pretty sure that's the whole thing, but hey, it was two months ago, I could have missed out something.) I've been determined, up to now, to simply have no more contact with this rebarbative user, but this...! I'm on an "ignore list", as if I'd been persistently flooding his talk page? With "personal attacks", yet? Apparently it's made no difference that I've been keeping quiet for two months and merely lived with the hate that Pcpcpc flings around so recklessly (he speaks of me and Giano to other users, strangers to both him and us, with extraordiniary venom, at the drop of a hat, with the most tenuous relevance), apparently without any notion that there are actual people behind "Giano" and "Bishonen": if you prick us, do we not bleed? Wikipedia has just become too unpleasant for me, and I've changed my mind about pacifism. Not that I'm planning any initiative—I know what RFCs and RFArs do to a person's peace of mind, and am still hoping one can be avoided—but if you should decide to do an RFC or similar, I'm in.
Perhaps you'll think it strange, incidentally, that the actual History of Pcpcpc's Talk page before February 12 is now at an archive, but that's the way it is. It's an effect that can be achieved quite simply by first moving the Talk page itself to being called "Archive", then editing the automatically created redirect into being again the Talk page: voilà, you have a fresh start, nobody can trace the way you've been acting before February 12, or not without being very curious and persistent. Best wishes,--Bishonen | Talk 21:03, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC). P. S. I just saw that Giano has now removed the "Ignore list". That's Giano, not Pcpcpc.

Oddly enough, a kind of resolution of my dealings with Pcpcpc can be found in an archive of User talk:Worldtraveller, here (keep on reading the section that begins with this diff), where I explode after several months of taking his abuse without replying to it. Giano had some further contact with him, but I didn't have the heart for recording it. Diffs to his twisty, constantly deleted, and redirected (!) Talk page are now almost impossible to locate.

[edit] Pcpcpc and other people

The following narrative ends on February 11, 2005; there was more to it, but again, I didn't have the heart for going on.

31 december:

A rebarbative general welcome to visitors (there have been many varieties of those, both on the userpage and the talk page) at Talk:Pcpcpc, plus a brief exchange between him and me: [1] , with my reply[2] and his reply [3]

2 January:

A user complains about Pcpcpc's talk page deletion practices: [4] And is promptly deleted without comment! [5]

In apparent response, however, after deleting the complaint, Pcpcpc posts his bitterest general greeting to date, which expresses his feeling of having received "hassle from a bunch of insiders from the start" (from later comments he's made, it's clear that I'm one of the worst of these insiders) and of being the champion of the hundreds of thousands of ordinary, non-editing readers against the insiders: [6]

11 January

A user writes a polite, pleasant query to Pcpcpc, but he's made a mistake! He ascribes an edit to Pcpcpc that was made by someone else! [7] And very properly gets his head bitten off for it: [8]

12 January:

Philip comments bitterly on how he has to do other people's work, and I write to him about how we're all volunteers: [9] In reply, Pcpcpc wonders how many people I have driven away from Wikipedia: [10]

14 January:

Netoholic initiates a discussion of categories, and is told he's denigrating Pcpcpc's categorization scheme [11]. Netoholic politely denies intention to denigrate, and asks where the categorization scheme is described [12]. Netoholic is asked in return what on earth he means, and is told he's attacking Pcpcpc: [13] and trying to vandalise his efforts [14]. Netoholic asks him not to use such words, and expresses a wish to discuss the scheme, asking again where he can find it described. [15], And elaborates, still politely, on the problems he sees with it, asking that they discuss them calmly [16]. Pcpcpc asks him, not calmly, to "quit trying to undermine my efforts": "all you have done is used up time which I could have spent improving Wikipedia" [17]. It is noticable in this discussion that Netoholic tries to discuss specifics of categorization, while Pcpcpc responds repeatedly by telling Netoholic he obviously doesn't "like" categories and should therefore just ignore them.

10 February:

Pcpcpc goes into crusade mode at a suggestion from Mav: [18]. Without any reply from Mav, Pcpcpc rapidly edits his own post, as is his custom, evolving it into another "insider" attack: [19].

11 February:

Jerzy writes to Pcpcpc about categories, and receives a reply which Pcpcpc again rapidly self-edits towards sneering and self-pity: [20]. Unaware of Pcpcpc's preoccupation with "insiders" (as nothing stays on the talk page for long), Jerzy now takes him to task for rudeness to Mav, saying all the wrong things: [21]. Pcpcpc responds by accusing him of "bursting in with a torrent of insider arrogance" and "exhibiting some of the worst and most damaging attributes of the cliquist", and self-edits to ask how Jerzy proposes to damage his future on Wikipedia [22] !. Self-edits some more: [23]—I'm only picking out a few in a string of those—here the reply to Jerzy has evolved to where it contains a reference to me: [24], at least I think it's me, although the assumption that I'm an admin is incorrect, and his self-description that he "asked to be shown some toleration as a newbie" is rich, but I still think it refers to an exchange I had with him.